Franklin Resources(BEN) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Assets under management (AUM) decreased to $1,540 billion, primarily due to long-term net outflows at Western Asset and negative market impacts [18][19] - Adjusted operating income was $377.2 million, a decrease of 8.6% from the prior quarter, mainly due to compensation expenses and the impact of Western [27][28] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Long-term inflows increased by 9% quarter over quarter, with gross sales rising across all asset classes [19] - Multi-asset and alternatives generated a combined $9.7 billion in positive net flows, while equity long-term inflows were $38.9 billion, despite net outflows of $5.4 billion in growth strategies [20][21] - Fixed income net outflows were $30.5 billion, but excluding Western, there were net inflows of $2.8 billion [20][21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The institutional unfunded pipeline increased by $2.3 billion to $20.4 billion, the highest level since 2022 [5] - International markets accounted for approximately $470 billion, or about 30% of AUM, with positive net flows in the EMEA and Americas regions [7][26] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to leverage market volatility to enhance client asset growth through diversified investment solutions [4][17] - Focus on expanding alternative assets and wealth management channels, projecting $800 billion to be allocated to democratize alternatives industry-wide over the next five years [22][64] - Continued integration of Western Asset to create efficiencies while maintaining investment team autonomy [28] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management remains cautiously constructive on global equity markets, citing concerns over US growth and tariff impacts [10][11] - The company anticipates that a recession in the US is not a foregone conclusion, with the economy being better insulated compared to export-dependent countries [11][12] - Positive sentiment around the potential for growth in private markets and alternatives, with a strong focus on educating financial advisers [63][64] Other Important Information - The company launched its first perpetual secondary private equity fund, raising an initial $2 billion [23] - The ETF business saw its fourteenth consecutive quarter of positive net flows, attracting $4.1 billion during the quarter [24][25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Guidance on fiscal year expenses given market movements - Management expects effective fee rates to remain around 38 basis points, with expenses projected to be flat compared to 2024 [36][39] Question: Estimate for base fee organic growth rate including Western - Management noted that long-term net flows excluding Western were about $7.4 billion, with positive flows in fixed income and alternatives [45][46] Question: Update on fixed income strategies and Western's health - Western experienced $10 billion in outflows but also had $5 billion in gross sales, indicating ongoing institutional interest [78][79] Question: Contribution of international business to revenues and flows - The company reported positive momentum in gross sales across all regions, with AUM outside the US at approximately $470 billion [92]