FormFactor(FORM) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1, revenues were $171.4 million, a decrease of 9.6% from Q4 and an increase of 1.6% year-over-year [16] - Non-GAAP gross margin for Q1 was 39.2%, down from 40.2% in Q4 [18] - Non-GAAP EPS for Q1 was $0.23, down from $0.27 in Q4 [23] - GAAP net income for Q1 was $6.4 million, or $0.08 per diluted share, compared to $9.7 million, or $0.12 per diluted share in Q4 [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Probe card segment revenues were $136.5 million in Q1, a decrease of 9.2% from Q4, driven by lower DRAM and Flash revenues [17] - Foundry and Logic revenues increased by 2.4% to $85 million in Q1, representing 49.8% of total revenues [17] - DRAM revenues were $48.9 million in Q1, down 22.8% from Q4, comprising 28.5% of total revenues [17] - Systems segment revenues were $34.8 million in Q1, a decrease from Q4, but expected to see moderate growth in Q2 [12][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company anticipates double-digit sequential revenue growth in Q2, driven by demand from hyperscalers and investments in generative AI [5] - HBM probe card demand is expected to increase due to ongoing shipments for existing HBM3E designs and new HBM4 designs [8] - The company has seen a reduction in revenue from China due to tariffs and export controls, validating its decision to divest operations in that region [7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on diversifying its customer base and product offerings, particularly in HBM and advanced packaging [38] - A recent acquisition of FICT Limited enhances the company's access to multilayer organic substrates, crucial for advanced foundry and logic probe cards [11] - The company aims to achieve $2 of non-GAAP EPS on $850 million of revenue, with a target gross margin of 47% [15][44] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the current geopolitical and tariff environment creates uncertainty, impacting revenue and gross margins [5][6] - The anticipated growth in Q2 is not expected to be driven by tariff-related order acceleration, but rather by genuine demand increases [5] - The company is taking a cautious approach to capital investments in light of evolving geopolitical conditions [24] Other Important Information - The company generated free cash flow of $6.3 million in Q1, down from $28.8 million in Q4, primarily due to lower profitability [23] - A new two-year share repurchase program of $75 million has been approved by the Board of Directors [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Impact of tariffs on revenue and margins - Management confirmed an estimated mid single-digit million dollar reduction in revenues due to tariffs, particularly affecting multinational customers outside free trade zones [29][30] Question: Customer dynamics and revenue contributions - A former top customer has returned to the list, indicating increased activity in the client PC space, which is expected to contribute positively to revenue [36][37] Question: DRAM business outlook - The growth in DRAM revenue is primarily driven by HBM, with expectations for continued strength in HBM3 and new contributions from HBM4 [41][42] Question: Systems sales and demand visibility - While visibility for individual orders is low, there is better long-term visibility for systems demand, particularly related to co-package optics [101]