Cummins(CMI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenues for Q1 2025 were $8.2 billion, a decrease of 3% compared to Q1 2024 [11] - EBITDA was$ 1.5 billion, or 17.9% of sales, compared to $2.6 billion, or 30.6% of sales a year ago [21] - Gross margin improved to$ 2.2 billion, or 26.4% of sales, up from $2.1 billion, or 24.5% last year [22] - Net earnings for the quarter were$ 824 million, or $5.96 per diluted share, compared to$ 2 billion, or $14.3 per diluted share a year ago [24] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Engine segment revenues decreased by 5% to$ 2.8 billion, but EBITDA increased to 16.5% from 14.1% [25] - Components segment revenue decreased by 20%, with EBITDA excluding costs related to the separation of Atmos decreasing to 14.3% from 14.8% [26] - Distribution segment revenues increased by 15% to $2.9 billion, with EBITDA also increasing to 12.9% of sales [26] - Power Systems segment revenues increased by 19% to$ 1.6 billion, with EBITDA rising from 17.1% to 23.6% of sales [26] - Accelera revenues increased by 11% to $103 million, with an EBITDA loss of$ 86 million compared to a loss of $101 million a year ago [26] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - North America revenues decreased by 1% compared to 2024, with heavy-duty truck industry production down 18% [12] - International revenues decreased by 5%, with revenues in China increasing by 9% to$ 1.8 billion [13] - Industry demand for medium and heavy-duty trucks in China decreased by 4%, while excavator demand increased by 23% [14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on executing its Destination Zero strategy and has introduced new engine platforms to enhance performance and efficiency [7][9] - The acquisition of First Mode aims to advance decarbonization solutions in mining and rail operations [10] - The company is investing over $1 billion in U.S. manufacturing operations to strengthen its position amid tariff uncertainties [16][17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed heightened uncertainty regarding the global economy due to trade tariffs, impacting demand for capital goods [15] - The company is well-positioned to navigate through uncertainty, with a strong financial position and experienced leadership [19] - Future guidance will be reinstated when there is more clarity regarding economic conditions and tariff impacts [28] Other Important Information - The company is actively working on mitigating tariff impacts through inventory strategies and dual sourcing [91] - There is ongoing uncertainty regarding North America emissions regulations for 2027, which could affect product launches and customer contracts [18][46] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you quantify the gross or net tariff cost impacting your business? - Management stated that it is uncertain to quantify the tariff costs at this time due to the evolving nature of tariffs [35] Question: Which businesses have the most visibility regarding backlog? - Management indicated that the power generation business has a multi-year order board, allowing for reallocation of orders if needed [37] Question: What are the expectations for margins in the Power Systems business moving forward? - Management noted that the strong performance in Q1 was driven by high aftermarket sales, and margins are expected to remain strong if demand trends continue [44] Question: What is the impact of tariffs on financial results in Q1? - Management reported that the impact of tariffs in Q1 was immaterial, but they expect changes in the second half of the year [52] Question: What tariff mitigation actions have been taken? - Management mentioned inventory strategies and dual sourcing as part of their mitigation efforts [91]