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Ambac(AMBC) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
AmbacAmbac(US:AMBC)2025-02-27 17:05

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Ambac reported a net loss of $548 million or $10.23 per diluted share for Q4 2024, compared to a net loss of $16 million or $0.24 per diluted share in Q4 2023 [28] - Consolidated adjusted net loss was $6 million or $0.12 per diluted share for Q4 2024, compared to adjusted net income of $4 million or $0.10 per diluted share in Q4 2023 [30] - The company recorded a $570 million loss on the sale of its legacy financial guarantee business [23] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The P&C business generated nearly $900 million in premiums, up 74% from 2023, and produced $236 million in revenue, up 89% from the prior year [7] - Cirrata generated nearly $100 million in revenue for 2024, up 93%, and earned approximately $20 million of adjusted EBITDA [15] - Everspan's gross premium written grew to over $380 million, up 40% from the prior year, with a combined ratio of 101.6%, improving nearly 500 basis points over 2023 [20][21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The overall E&S market continues to perform well, with high-single to double-digit rate increases in U.S. casualty lines [12] - The property market showed some softening in Q4, but terms and conditions have held [13] - Professional and financial lines are experiencing softness, particularly in large account and public market D&O [14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on the future growth of its Specialty P&C business and delivering value for shareholders [11] - Ambac aims to achieve strong organic growth and generate $80 million to $90 million of adjusted EBITDA to common shareholders by 2028 [44] - The acquisition of Beat is expected to deliver strong organic growth and enhance the distribution platform [8] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the areas of softening in the market, such as Employer Stop Loss and short-term medical, may stabilize in the near future [50] - The focus remains on profitability for Everspan, with effective loss ratios in the mid-60s aligning with long-term goals [55] - Management expressed optimism about the prospects for Ambac's future, particularly following the separation from the legacy financial guarantee business [43] Other Important Information - The company has substantially completed the separation of its legacy and P&C businesses, preparing for the close of the legacy sale [11] - Cirrata's premiums increased by 309% to $205 million, with total revenue rising by 257% to $44 million compared to Q4 2023 [31] Q&A Session Summary Question: Distribution business performance and outlook - Management indicated that softening in Employer Stop Loss and short-term medical is a macro trend, but stabilization is expected [50][51] Question: Sustainability of Everspan's combined ratio - Management stated that while there is variability, the performance aligns with long-term objectives, aiming for effective loss ratios in the mid-60s [55][56]