Kinsale Capital (KNSL) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1 2025, Kinsale's operating earnings per share increased by 6% and gross written premium grew by 8% compared to Q1 2024 [6] - The company reported a combined ratio of 82% and an annualized operating return on equity of 22.5% [6][12] - Net investment income rose by 33.1% year-over-year due to growth in the investment portfolio [13] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Commercial Property division experienced an 18% decrease in premium, which was the largest underwriting unit last year [9] - Excluding the Commercial Property division, Kinsale's direct written premium grew by 16.7% [10] - Personal lines and small commercial property teams continued to grow at double-digit rates [10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The E&S market remained steady in Q1 2025, but competition continued to increase [11] - Overall rates for the quarter were down 1%, with the Commercial Property division seeing rates down about 20% [20] - Casualty rates overall were up modestly, driven by construction and general casualty [20] Company Strategy and Development Direction - Kinsale focuses on disciplined underwriting and a technology-driven low-cost model, which provides a durable competitive advantage [21][25] - The company is expanding its personal lines book, particularly in high-value homeowners and manufactured homes [18] - Kinsale aims to maintain profitability over growth, prioritizing high-margin segments and controlling underwriting [41][90] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the business model and the ability to sustain underwriting performance despite competitive pressures [40][42] - The company is well-positioned to grow even in a contracting economy, with a low expense ratio compared to competitors [46] - Management remains optimistic about growth prospects and the ability to take market share from higher-expense competitors [25] Other Important Information - The estimated loss from the Palisades wildfire was revised to about $41 million gross and $22 million net of reinsurance [7] - Kinsale repurchased $10 million in shares during Q1 2025, with expectations for similar modest levels of repurchases in the future [15] Q&A Session Summary Question: Submission growth trends between property and casualty lines - The commercial property is experiencing the biggest decline in growth rate, while the rest of the properties continue to show strong submission growth [28][29] Question: Impact of competition on property slowdown - Increased competition in the large property account space is noted, with more capital entering the market [34][35] Question: Confidence in sustaining underwriting performance - Management is confident in their business model, focusing on high-margin segments and controlling underwriting [40][42] Question: Kinsale's strategy in a potential recession - The company believes it can continue to grow even in a contracting economy due to its low expense ratio [46] Question: Changes in loss trends for property and casualty lines - A decrease in reported losses and a favorable mix of business contributed to strong underlying loss ratios [54][55] Question: Appetite for large commercial property - Kinsale has not changed its appetite for large commercial property, focusing on the right pricing terms [74][75] Question: Sustainability of high loss ratios in fronting companies - Management believes that high loss ratios are unsustainable for fronting companies, which will eventually change the competitive landscape [84][85] Question: Core loss ratio and willingness to sacrifice margin for growth - Kinsale prioritizes profitability over growth, managing profitability at a granular level [88][90] Question: Competition in the commercial property market - The competitive environment in the commercial property market is described as steady, with no significant changes noted [96][99] Question: Long-term mix between property and casualty - The E&S market is generally viewed as one-third property and two-thirds casualty, with ongoing efforts to expand into homeowners insurance [104][105]