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FormFactor(FORM) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1, revenues were $171.4 million, a decrease of 9.6% from Q4 and an increase of 1.6% year-over-year [16] - Non-GAAP gross margin for Q1 was 39.2%, down from 40.2% in Q4 [18][19] - Non-GAAP EPS for Q1 was $0.23, down from $0.27 in Q4 [23] - GAAP net income for Q1 was $6.4 million, or $0.08 per diluted share, compared to $9.7 million, or $0.12 per diluted share in Q4 [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Probe card segment revenues were $136.5 million in Q1, a decrease of 9.2% from Q4, driven by lower DRAM and Flash revenues [17] - Foundry and Logic revenues increased to $85 million in Q1, a 2.4% increase from Q4, comprising 49.8% of total revenues [17] - DRAM revenues were $48.9 million in Q1, down 22.8% from Q4, representing 28.5% of total revenues [17] - Systems segment revenues were $34.8 million in Q1, a decrease from Q4, but expected to see moderate growth in Q2 [12][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company anticipates double-digit sequential revenue growth in Q2, driven by demand from hyperscalers and investments in generative AI [5] - HBM probe card demand is expected to increase due to ongoing shipments for existing HBM3E designs and new HBM4 designs [8][10] - The company has seen a reduction in revenue from China due to tariffs and export controls, validating its decision to divest operations in that region [6][7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on diversifying its customer base and product offerings, particularly in HBM and advanced packaging [39] - A recent acquisition of FICT Limited enhances the company's access to multilayer organic substrates, crucial for advanced foundry and logic probe cards [11] - The company aims to achieve a target model of $2 non-GAAP EPS on $850 million of revenue, with a gross margin target of 47% [15][44] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the current geopolitical and tariff environment creates uncertainty, impacting revenue and gross margins [5][6] - The company is taking a cautious approach to capital investments while evaluating the evolving tariff situation [24] - Management expressed optimism about the growth potential in the second half of 2025, particularly in the foundry and logic markets [63] Other Important Information - The company generated free cash flow of $6.3 million in Q1, down from $28.8 million in Q4, primarily due to lower profitability [23] - The company has initiated a new $75 million share repurchase program after fully utilizing the previous program [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Impact of tariffs on revenue and margins - Management confirmed an estimated mid single-digit million dollar reduction in revenues due to tariffs, particularly affecting multinational customers in China [30][31] Question: Customer dynamics and revenue contributions - Management noted a return of a key customer to the top sales list, indicating increased activity in the client PC space and a focus on regaining competitive position [36][37] Question: DRAM business outlook - All projected growth in DRAM is expected to come from HBM, with steady demand in non-HBM applications [42] Question: Co-package optics and its impact - Management highlighted the potential for co-package optics to drive growth in both systems and probe card businesses, emphasizing the importance of collaboration with customers [65][86] Question: Advanced probe cards for GPUs - The company is making progress in qualifying advanced probe cards for GPUs, with expectations for positive updates in the second half of the year [72][73]