Orion(US:OESX)2025-06-26 15:00Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2025, revenue was $20.9 million, up from $19.6 million in Q3 2025 but down from $26.4 million in Q4 2024 [14] - Fiscal 2025 revenues totaled $79.7 million, compared to $90.6 million in fiscal 2024, reflecting a decline [14] - The net loss for Q4 2025 was $2.9 million, or $0.09 per share, compared to a net income of $1.6 million, or $0.05 per share in Q4 2024 [19] - Fiscal 2025 net loss increased slightly to $11.8 million, or $0.36 per share, compared to a net loss of $11.7 million, or $0.36 per share in fiscal 2024 [19] - Cash generated from operations improved to $600,000 in fiscal 2025 from negative $10.1 million in fiscal 2024 [19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The EV charging business saw a revenue increase of 1837% in Q4 2025, driven by expanded geographic reach and order backlog execution [14] - LED lighting revenues in Q4 2025 and fiscal 2025 decreased by 3322% year-over-year due to reduced project activity and product demand [15] - Electrical Maintenance Services revenue decreased to $4.1 million in Q4 2025 from $5.2 million a year ago, but gross profit margin improved significantly to 18.2% from 4.4% in fiscal 2024 [16][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company expects modest growth in LED lighting and electrical maintenance revenues for fiscal 2026, while anticipating flat to slightly lower EV charging revenues due to uncertainty in project funding [21] - The overall gross profit margin increased by 170 basis points to 27.5% in Q4 2025 compared to 25.8% in fiscal 2024, attributed to improvements in maintenance and a higher margin revenue mix in EV charging [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company has reorganized into two commercial business units: Solutions and Partners, to better leverage capabilities across LED lighting, EV charging, and electrical maintenance [9][10] - The Solutions unit focuses on large projects and cross-selling opportunities, while the Partners unit emphasizes product sales through distribution channels [10] - The company aims to enhance leadership and urgency in executing its growth and profitability goals, with a focus on integrating engineering design and project management capabilities [12] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the need for improved execution on product and service opportunities and emphasized the importance of maintaining customer relationships [6][12] - The company is optimistic about its project pipeline and expects to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA for the full fiscal year 2026 [22] - Management remains cautious about the EV charging segment due to uncertainties in federal funding and project timelines, despite a strong project pipeline [31][38] Other Important Information - The company reduced operating overheads by more than $4 million in fiscal 2025 and plans to implement further reductions in fiscal 2026 [8] - A binding term sheet was executed to address Voltrec earn-out obligations, which includes issuing $1 million in common stock and a cash payment of $875,000 [20] Q&A Session Summary Question: Order trends and expectations for Q2 - Management noted a strong start to the year with orders, particularly in April, and expects this trend to continue [28] Question: Assumptions for EV charging revenue outlook - Management is taking a conservative approach for the EV segment, citing a strong project pipeline but acknowledging potential impacts from federal actions [31][38] Question: Clarification on earn-out obligations - The earn-out opportunity related to the purchase has ended, with remaining obligations tied to stock and cash payments [39] Question: Revenue cadence throughout the quarter - Management expects a more consistent revenue flow throughout the year, with subsequent quarters anticipated to be higher than Q1 [43] Question: Gross margins by business unit - Management expects gross margins to be relatively consistent across business units, with potential for improvement based on cost-saving initiatives [44] Question: Impact of federal government rule changes - Management clarified that while there has been some noise, the company has not been significantly impacted by federal funding issues, particularly in the EV segment [60][61]