PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust(PMT) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q2 2025, the company reported a net loss to common shareholders of $3 million, translating to a loss per share of $0.04, primarily due to fair value declines and a non-recurring tax adjustment of $14 million [2][11] - The book value per share as of June 30 was $15, a slight decrease from March 31 [2] - The company declared a common dividend of $0.40 per share for the second quarter [2] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Credit Sensitive Strategies contributed $22 million to pretax income, while interest rate sensitive strategies reported a pretax loss of $5 million [11] - Gains from organically created Credit Risk Transfer (CRT) investments were $17 million, with $9 million from realized gains and $8 million from market-driven value changes [11] - The company completed three securitizations totaling $1.1 billion in UPB, retaining $71 million in new investments [4] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total correspondent loan acquisition volume was $30 billion in Q2, up 30% from the previous quarter [12] - PMT retained 17% of total conventional correspondent production in Q2, down from 21% in Q1 [13] - The weighted average coupon of mortgages underlying MSRs was 3.9%, indicating borrowers have little incentive to refinance [6] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to execute one securitization of agency eligible non-owner occupied loans per month and one jumbo loan securitization per quarter, focusing on leveraging organic investment creation abilities [5] - PMT's structure allows efficient capital deployment into long-term mortgage assets without the operational burdens of origination and servicing [3] - The company is positioned to continue growing its private label securitization market presence, having been a top three issuer of prime non-agency MBS [4] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in navigating a volatile market by leveraging competitive advantages, including a diversified investment portfolio and strong risk management practices [10] - The company expects to maintain a stable dividend level of $0.40, supported by projected taxable income and investment strategies [40] - Management noted that realized losses are expected to remain limited due to the overall credit strength of consumers and substantial home equity accumulation [8] Other Important Information - The fair value of PMT's MSR asset at the end of the quarter was $3.8 billion, slightly down from March 31 [12] - Delinquency rates for the MSR portfolio remain low, attributed to strong consumer credit and home price appreciation [8] - The company issued $105 million in unsecured senior notes due in February 2030 [15] Q&A Session Summary Question: Discussion on non-agency securitization opportunity and returns - Management noted that non-agency subordinate MBS experienced credit spread tightening despite rate volatility, with expected returns in the mid to low teens [18][19] Question: Retained interest on jumbo loans - The company retained a senior mezzanine tranche on the jumbo securitization, indicating a likely trend of retaining a greater portion of interest in future securitizations based on capital deployment [21][22] Question: Sustainability of the $0.40 dividend level - Management remains comfortable with the $0.40 dividend level, citing stability in taxable income and expected returns from investments [40]