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Nucor(NUE) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Nucor generated EBITDA of approximately $1.3 billion and earned $2.6 per diluted share in the second quarter, representing a significant improvement over the first quarter results driven by higher average selling prices in the steel mill segment [6][16] - Year-to-date adjusted earnings were $782 million or $3.37 per share, with second quarter results including pre-operating and startup costs of approximately $136 million or $0.45 per share [16][17] - Total capital return to shareholders for the first half of the year reached $758 million, with $329 million returned in the second quarter through dividends and buybacks [6][21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The steel mills segment generated pre-tax earnings of $843 million, more than triple that of the prior quarter, driven by higher average selling prices, particularly in sheet and plate operations [17][19] - The steel products segment saw pre-tax earnings of $392 million, a 28% increase over the prior quarter, with stable realized pricing and higher volumes contributing to the best earnings quarter since 2024 [11][19] - The raw materials segment realized pre-tax earnings of approximately $57 million for the quarter, an increase of approximately 95% over the first quarter [20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The steel mills backlog at the end of the second quarter was up nearly 30% compared to the same time last year, indicating solid and steady booking rates [17] - The sheet backlog at the end of the second quarter was 15% higher than the same time last year, reflecting strong demand [18] - Nucor's bar shipments were 13% higher in the first half of the year, while plate shipments to the bridge market hit a record in the second quarter, rising 35% for 2025 [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - Nucor is focused on executing its growth strategy and creating value for shareholders, customers, and communities while maintaining a strong safety record [5][10] - The company is well-positioned to support growth in steel-intensive projects and promote reshoring of vital manufacturing, leveraging its diverse capabilities in the North American steel market [15][27] - Nucor anticipates domestic steel demand will be higher in 2025 compared to 2024, with confidence in capturing a healthy share of that demand [26] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management described the pricing environment as broadly stable, with expectations of modest margin compression in the steel mill segment despite resilient backlogs and stable demand [18][26] - The company is optimistic about the impact of recent trade policies and tariffs, which are expected to curb unfairly traded imports and protect national security [12][14] - Management highlighted strong demand drivers in technology, infrastructure, energy, and data centers, which are expected to continue driving demand for steel and steel products [22][24][25] Other Important Information - Nucor's credit ratings are the highest among North American steel producers, with a total debt to capital ratio of approximately 24% and cash of approximately $2.5 billion [21] - The company is on track to deploy approximately $3 billion in capital expenditures for the year, with significant progress on several important capital projects [7][10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you break down the margin compression in the steel products segment? - Management indicated that the margin compression is not due to weak demand drivers but rather a lag effect from orders taken in late Q4 and early Q1, with recent price increases announced [29][33] Question: What are the biggest opportunities to displace imports in the second half of the year? - Management noted that opportunities exist across various product lines, with an 85% utilization rate across the steel mill segment and a focus on meeting demand where it exists [37][39] Question: Can you speak to the pre-operating startup costs and outlook for new assets? - Management expects pre-operating startup costs to be in the range of $140 million to $150 million per quarter for the back half of the year, with significant contributions to EBITDA anticipated as new assets ramp up [48][49] Question: What is driving the expected margin compression in the steel mills segment? - Management highlighted the impact of tariffs on raw materials and a lag effect in pricing as key drivers of the expected margin compression [56][105] Question: Have you seen any tariff-led costs in Q2? - Management confirmed that there were no tariff-led costs observed in Q2 [71] Question: What is the outlook for working capital in H2? - Management indicated that a large working capital build in H1 set up a constructive pivot for free cash flow in the second half of the year [79][80]