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Tenaris S.A.(TS) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
Tenaris S.A.Tenaris S.A.(US:TS)2025-07-31 13:00

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Second quarter sales reached EUR 3.1 billion, down 7% year-on-year but up 6% sequentially, mainly due to increased North American OCTG prices and stable volumes [4] - EBITDA for the quarter was up 5% sequentially to USD 733 million, with an EBITDA margin close to 24% [4] - Operating cash flow was USD 673 million, with capital expenditure of USD 135 million, resulting in free cash flow of USD 538 million [5] - Net cash position amounted to EUR 3.7 billion at the end of the quarter after dividend payments and share buybacks [5] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Average selling prices in the Tubes operating segment decreased by 2% year-on-year but increased by 6% sequentially [4] - The company expects lower sales in the third quarter due to reduced invoicing in fracking operations and lower shipments of line pipe [16][20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. Section 232 tariff on steel products increased from 25% to 50%, creating market uncertainty and affecting pricing dynamics [7] - The company anticipates that the current broad-based tariff approach will eventually shift to a more specific product-based approach [7] - The company noted that imports are expected to decrease as excess inventories are drawn down [8] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on maintaining a strong U.S. domestic production base and enhancing its Rig Direct service to differentiate itself in the market [8] - The company is building local service bases in the Guyana Suriname Basin to support operations for major clients [11] - The acquisition of Shawcor is expected to enhance the company's ability to serve clients with a competitive offer and short lead times [26] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the company's solid industrial and commercial position despite a slowdown in drilling activity in some regions [6] - The outlook for the third quarter includes expectations of lower sales and invoicing due to various factors, including maintenance activities [20] - Management indicated that while the rig count in North America may not see a strong reduction, pricing dynamics will be influenced by tariff impacts [18] Other Important Information - The company has received significant project awards, including for the supply of casing and tubing for major projects in Brazil, Alaska, Nigeria, Angola, and the Mediterranean [9][11] - The company is optimistic about the development of the Vaca Muerta shale play in Argentina, despite current challenges [12][41] Q&A Session Summary Question: Outlook for 2025 considering tariff impacts and activity levels - Management noted that visibility for the third quarter is clearer, but the fourth quarter remains uncertain due to tariff negotiations and market dynamics [16][20] Question: Margins outlook for Q3 and Q4 - Management expects margins to be slightly below the current quarter but within the range of 20% to 25% [38] Question: Sales outlook in Argentina - Management indicated that the situation in Argentina is affected by reduced rig counts and cautious investment approaches [41] Question: Impact of imports on market share - Management stated that imports represent a significant share of demand in the U.S., and the tariff will impact pricing and market dynamics [49] Question: Potential for bringing forward share buybacks - Management confirmed that the second tranche of share buybacks will be considered in the upcoming Board meeting [51] Question: Sensitivity of revenues generated in Mexico - Management provided insights into the number of rigs operated by Pemex and the potential for increased shipments in the future [100] Question: Expectations for the Middle East market - Management noted that while Saudi Arabia has seen reduced activity, other regions in the Middle East are maintaining stable drilling levels [71] Question: Exposure to gas markets in the U.S. - Management highlighted the company's growing activity in gas markets, particularly in Haynesville and Appalachia [86] Question: Inventory levels and pricing dynamics - Management discussed the impact of increased imports on inventory levels and pricing pressures in the U.S. market [92]