Eagle Point Credit Co Inc.(ECC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company generated net investment income less realized losses from investments of $0.16 per share, consisting of $0.23 of net investment income offset by $0.07 of realized losses from investments [5][14] - The NAV as of June 30 was $7.31 per share, up 1.1% from $7.23 as of March 31 [6] - The company recorded GAAP net income of $58 million or $0.47 per share for the second quarter, compared to GAAP net losses of $0.84 per share in the previous year [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Recurring cash flows for the second quarter were $85 million or $0.69 per share, exceeding quarterly aggregate common distributions and total expenses by $0.08 per share [6][12] - The company deployed $86 million into new investments during the quarter, taking advantage of market dislocation to acquire CLO equity positions at attractive levels [7][19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The S&P UBS Leveraged Loan Index experienced a total return of 2.3% for the second quarter, recovering from a decline in April [20] - The trailing twelve-month default rate for loans stood at 1.1% as of June 30, well below the long-term average of 2.6% [21] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on refinancing and reset activities to reduce CLO financing costs and enhance net investment income [9][25] - A second strategic CLO collateral manager partnership was established, which is expected to enhance shareholder returns over time [11][62] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed a positive outlook for the portfolio, citing strong recurring cash flows and a robust pipeline of refinancing opportunities [26] - The company believes that the market dislocation presents opportunities for CLO equity investors with the right positioning and patience [25] Other Important Information - The company issued $41 million of common stock at a premium to NAV, resulting in an accretion of NAV by $0.02 per share during the quarter [10] - The company's asset coverage ratios for preferred stock and debt were 243% and 525%, respectively, exceeding statutory requirements [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: What drove the realized losses this quarter? - Realized losses included $0.02 from trading losses and $0.05 from the reclassification of three CLO equity positions that were past their reinvestment period [35][36] Question: Can you shed light on the significant sell-off in CLO equity recently? - The sell-off was primarily driven by more sellers than buyers, with concerns about tariff-related increases in defaults contributing to market sentiment [82][83] Question: How sensitive are repayments to lower rates? - Repayments are driven by bullish or bearish sentiment on spreads rather than interest rates, with higher repayments typically occurring in strong debt markets [68][70]