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Carnival (CCL) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
Carnival Carnival (US:CCL)2025-09-29 15:02

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company achieved record revenues, operating income, EBITDA, and customer deposits, with net income reaching an all-time high of $2 billion, surpassing pre-pandemic levels by nearly 10% [7][9][19] - Operating income and EBITDA reached the highest levels in nearly 20 years, despite a 2.5% decrease in capacity compared to the previous year [8][9] - Yields increased by 4.6% on a same-ship basis, exceeding guidance, driven by strong close-in demand and onboard spending [9][20] - The company reported a return on invested capital (ROIC) of 13%, the first time since 2007 that returns have reached the teens [9][10] - Net debt to EBITDA ratio improved to 3.6x, approaching investment-grade metrics [9][26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company welcomed the Star Princess into the fleet, which represents over 15% of the Princess fleet, expected to boost brand performance [11] - Celebration Key, a new destination, has received positive feedback and is anticipated to attract 2.8 million guests next year, enhancing overall brand value [12][13] - The company is focusing on targeted investments in Caribbean destinations, expecting to capture over 8 million guest visits next year [15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company has the largest assets and capacity dedicated to Alaska and a significant presence in Europe, both performing well [16] - The Caribbean market remains a crucial segment, accounting for about one-third of the company's business [109] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to continue improving same-ship yields and closing the value gap with land-based alternatives, enhancing margins and returns over time [10][15] - The strategic focus includes expanding destination offerings and enhancing guest experiences to drive consumer consistency and conversion [15][16] - The company plans to maintain a disciplined approach to capital deployment, focusing on high-return brands and operational improvements [16][17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in booking trends, with nearly half of 2026 already booked at higher prices, indicating a positive outlook for the upcoming year [10][24] - The company is optimistic about the impact of the new loyalty program and the operational benefits from new destinations [24][25] - Management acknowledged potential headwinds in 2026 but emphasized the strength of the diversified portfolio and ongoing operational improvements [56][90] Other Important Information - The company has been actively refinancing to reduce interest expenses and strengthen its capital structure, with a target of a net debt to EBITDA ratio below three times [26][27] - The company plans to return capital to shareholders as leverage metrics improve, with discussions on reinstating dividends and potential buybacks [75][76] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on forward booking prices - Management confirmed that both North America and Europe are at historical record high pricing levels, with no significant changes from the previous quarter [31][32] Question: Impact of Celebration Key on ticket prices - Management indicated that Celebration Key is positively impacting ticket prices, with early operations meeting expectations [33][34] Question: Consumer behavior shifts - Management noted strong booking trends and emphasized that the company is not seeing significant shifts in consumer behavior despite broader market trends [39][40] Question: 2026 booking strategy - Management expressed confidence in the current booking position for 2026 and indicated that lessons learned from previous years will inform future strategies [42][44] Question: 2027 bookings and dry dock plans - Management stated that 2027 bookings are off to an unprecedented start, with plans for fewer dry dock days compared to 2026 [50][100] Question: Capital return strategy - Management highlighted the importance of reinstating dividends and the potential for buybacks, with a focus on returning capital to shareholders as leverage improves [75][76] Question: Connection between brand initiatives and pricing - Management discussed the positive impact of brand initiatives like the AIDA Evolutions program on pricing and overall yield improvements [64][68] Question: Improvements in laggard brands - Management acknowledged that some laggard brands are showing improvement and emphasized ongoing support for these brands to enhance their performance [94][96]