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Orchid Island Capital(ORC) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q3 2025, the company reported net income of $0.53 per share compared to a loss of $0.29 in Q2 2025 [7] - Book value increased to $7.33 at September 30 from $7.21 at June 30 [7] - Total return for Q3 was 6.7%, a significant improvement from negative 4.7% in Q2 [7] - Average portfolio balance rose to $7.7 billion in Q3 from $6.9 billion in Q2 [8] - Liquidity improved to 57.1% at September 30 from 54% at June 30 [8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The portfolio remains 100% Agency RMBS with a focus on call-protected specified pools, which help insulate from adverse prepayment behavior [42] - The weighted average coupon increased from 5.45% to 5.53%, and the effective yield rose from 5.38% to 5.51% [43] - The net interest spread expanded from 2.43% to 2.59% [43] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The cash treasury curve showed a slight steepening, reflecting market pricing in Fed cuts due to labor market deterioration [10][12] - The current coupon mortgage spread to the ten-year treasury has halved since May 2023, indicating a tightening in the mortgage market [15] - The performance of mortgages remains attractive, with the company noting strong demand despite tight credit spreads [13][19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on maintaining a conservative leverage posture while enhancing the carry and prepayment stability of its portfolio [44] - The strategy includes investing in high coupon specified pools and maintaining a bias towards call protection to mitigate risks associated with prepayments [60] - The company anticipates continued Fed rate cuts and the end of quantitative tightening (QT) as potential tailwinds for the Agency RMBS market [61] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted a potential crossroads in the economy, with labor market weakness prompting Fed rate cuts, while also observing resilience in consumer spending and government stimulus [64] - The company expects to adjust hedges to lock in lower funding rates and prepare for potential rate hikes following anticipated cuts [66] Other Important Information - The company raised $152 million in equity capital during the quarter, which was fully deployed into high-quality specified pools [41][59] - The funding markets are experiencing friction, particularly during heavy treasury bill issuance, impacting term pricing [46][47] Q&A Session Summary Question: What macro factors might change overall risk positioning? - Management indicated that if rates remain low and the Fed continues to cut, they may consider increasing leverage. Conversely, if the economy strengthens, they would focus on protecting against potential rate sell-offs [68][70] Question: What is the outlook for pay-ups on high coupon spec pools? - Management noted that pay-ups have increased sharply, driven by market dynamics, but they have managed to acquire pools without excessive pay-ups [72][74] Question: Will dollar roll specialists return to the market? - Management expressed skepticism about the return of dollar roll specialists, citing the current market dynamics and the Fed's focus on treasury purchases rather than mortgage-backed securities [84][86] Question: What is the percentage of the portfolio covered with call protection? - Almost 100% of the portfolio has some form of call protection, which is expected to mitigate risks in a declining rate environment [94][96]