Orchid Island Capital(ORC) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q3 2025, the company reported net income of $0.53 per share compared to a loss of $0.29 in Q2 2025 [5] - Book value increased to $7.33 as of September 30 from $7.21 on June 30 [5] - Total return for Q3 was 6.7%, a significant improvement from negative 4.7% in Q2 [5] - Average portfolio balance rose to $7.7 billion in Q3 from $6.9 billion in Q2 [5] - Liquidity improved to 57.1% at September 30, up from 54% at June 30 [5] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The average coupon of the portfolio increased from 5.45% to 5.53% [30] - Effective yield rose from 5.38% to 5.51% [30] - Net interest spread expanded from 2.43% to 2.59% [30] - 20% of the portfolio is now backed by credit-impaired borrowers, with significant exposure to Florida and New York pools [30] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Treasury curve steepened slightly during the quarter, reflecting market expectations of Federal Reserve rate cuts due to labor market deterioration [7][9] - The current coupon mortgage spread to the 10-year Treasury halved from 200 basis points in May 2023 to 100 basis points [11] - The mortgage market remains attractive, with strong demand despite tight credit spreads [10] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company maintains a conservative leverage posture while focusing on high coupon specified pools to enhance income stability [30][43] - The strategy includes a heavy tilt towards call-protected specified pools to insulate against adverse payment behavior [30] - The company is positioned to benefit from potential Federal Reserve rate cuts and the anticipated end of quantitative tightening [44] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted a potential crossroads for the economy, with labor market weakness prompting possible Federal Reserve rate cuts, while also observing resilience in consumer spending and government stimulus [45][46] - The company expects to adjust hedges to lock in lower funding costs and prepare for potential rate hikes following expected cuts [47] Other Important Information - The company raised $152 million in equity capital during the quarter, which was fully deployed into high-quality specified pools [28][41] - The weighted average price of the portfolio was over $101, indicating a premium position [72] Q&A Session Summary Question: Any macro factors that might change overall risk positioning? - Management indicated that if the Federal Reserve continues to cut rates, they might consider increasing leverage to benefit from the low-rate environment [50][52] Question: View on payouts upside potential with refi momentum? - Management noted that payouts have increased sharply recently, but they do not expect to return to the high levels seen in 2020 or 2021 [54][55] Question: Scenarios for dollar roll specialness returning? - Management expressed skepticism about the return of dollar roll specialness, citing the Federal Reserve's focus on buying Treasuries and bills rather than mortgages [61] Question: Supply and availability for longer-dated repo? - Management mentioned that spreads for longer-dated repo are currently too wide, but they are opportunistically looking to lock in favorable terms [63][64] Question: Percentage of portfolio covered with call protection? - Almost 100% of the portfolio has some form of call protection, which is expected to mitigate risks in a declining rate environment [71]