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CVR Energy(CVI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q3 2025, consolidated net income was $401 million, with earnings per share at $3.72 and EBITDA of $625 million, including a $488 million benefit from small refinery exemptions [4][10] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $180 million, with adjusted earnings per share at $0.40, reflecting a significant impact from RFS liability changes and inventory valuation [10][11] - The estimated accrued RFS obligation on the balance sheet was $93 million as of September 30, representing 90 million RINs marked to market at an average price of $1.03 [11] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In the petroleum segment, adjusted EBITDA was $120 million for Q3, driven by increased Group 3 benchmark cracks and higher throughput volumes [10][12] - The ammonia utilization rate in the fertilizer segment was 95%, down from 97% in Q3 2024, with higher nitrogen fertilizer prices compared to the previous year [8][13] - The renewable segment reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of $7 million, a decline from an $8 million profit in Q3 2024, primarily due to increased soybean oil prices and the loss of the blenders' tax credit [12][13] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Group 3 benchmark cracks averaged $25.97 per barrel in Q3 2025, up from $19.40 per barrel in the previous year [5][10] - Average RIN prices for Q3 were approximately $6.33 per barrel, nearly 25% of the Group 3 2-1-1 crack [5] - Fertilizer prices remained high due to tight global supplies, with ammonia priced at approximately $700 per ton and urea ammonium nitrate at $360 per ton [23] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to revert the renewable diesel unit back to hydrocarbon processing during the next scheduled turnaround in December, citing profitability concerns in the renewable space [21][22] - The management remains cautiously optimistic about the refining sector, anticipating stable demand and limited new refining capacity, which could support healthy crack spreads [19][20] - The company is focused on returning the balance sheet to targeted leverage and prioritizing paying down the term loan with excess cash flow [24][25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that refining market conditions improved in Q3, with steady refined product demand and inventories near five-year averages [18] - The company expressed concerns about the renewable business's reliance on government support, which has been lacking, impacting profitability [21] - Future pipeline projects are expected to positively impact the Mid-Continent region, providing relief for product movement [28] Other Important Information - The company ended Q3 with a consolidated cash balance of $670 million and total liquidity of approximately $830 million [14][15] - Significant cash uses included $43 million for capital and turnaround spending and $20 million for term loan repayment [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: Pipeline projects and shipping commitments - Management acknowledged the potential positive impact of new pipeline projects for Mid-Continent refiners but has not yet decided on shipping commitments [27][28] Question: Renewable diesel plant utilization - The renewable diesel unit will be mothballed, with plans to find new uses for logistical assets, but the pretreatment plant will be shut down [29][30] Question: Renewable diesel conversion costs - The conversion back to hydrocarbon processing is primarily a catalyst change, with low costs associated with mothballing the unit [36][40] Question: RIN obligation strategy - The company plans to monitor RIN obligations closely and is preparing to purchase RINs to meet compliance deadlines [46][47] Question: Dividend restart timeline - Management indicated that predicting the right debt levels for restarting dividends is challenging, but the refining environment appears favorable for future growth [52][54]