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Werner Enterprises(WERN) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenues for Q3 2025 totaled $771 million, an increase of 3% year-over-year, with revenues net of fuel increasing by 4% [16] - Adjusted EPS was negative $0.03, impacted by discrete tax items which negatively affected adjusted EPS by $0.08 [11][28] - Adjusted operating margin was 1.4%, with TTS adjusted operating margin at 1.9% net of fuel surcharge, a decrease of 340 basis points year-over-year [16][11] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Dedicated Truckload Services, revenue net of fuel was $292 million, up 2.5%, representing 65% of TTS trucking revenues [18] - One-Way Truckload Services saw trucking revenue net of fuel decrease by 3% to $160 million, with revenue per truck per week decreasing by 4.3% due to lower miles per truck [20][12] - Logistics revenue increased by 12% year-over-year to $233 million, with truckload logistics revenues up 13% and shipments increasing by 12% [22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Demand in Q3 was below normal seasonality for most of the quarter, but improvement in one-way trucking demand was noted through September and into October [13] - Retail inventories have mostly normalized, with non-discretionary goods experiencing consistent replenishment cycles [14] - Spot rates trended higher starting in September and are expected to follow normal seasonal patterns for the remainder of the year [14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company focuses on three priorities: driving growth in core business, operational excellence, and capital efficiency [6] - The company is investing in technology transformation, creating a modern, scalable, secure cloud-based platform to enhance operational efficiency and customer experience [8][9] - The company aims to maintain a balanced capital allocation strategy, investing in growth while returning capital to shareholders [25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in business fundamentals despite challenges in the one-way business, highlighting steady momentum in dedicated services [4][5] - Concerns about consumer health persist, but rising retail sales and moderate inflation relief are seen as supportive signs for retail [13] - The company expects continued improvement in one-way production and a more favorable position as the market stabilizes [12][15] Other Important Information - The company achieved $36 million in savings towards its $45 million cost savings goal for 2025, with expectations to reach the full goal by year-end [23] - Operating cash flow was $44 million for the quarter, representing 5.7% of total revenue, with total liquidity at quarter-end amounting to $695 million [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Expectations for TTS operating ratio improvement from Q3 to Q4 - Management expects some operating income upside due to startup expenses dropping off and one-way production rebounding, but logistics gross margin pressure may offset this [31] Question: Impact of regulatory enforcement on capacity reduction - Management noted that the pace of capacity reduction related to regulatory enforcement is increasing, with projections suggesting about 30,000 drivers could be placed out of service annually [32][33] Question: Thoughts on mid-season rates for 2026 - Management believes enforcement issues could lead to better bid season outcomes compared to the previous year, with expectations for improved rates due to increased enforcement [35][37] Question: Peak season expectations - Management anticipates peak season to look similar to the previous year, with discount retail holding up well and projections for same-store sales remaining stable [44][45] Question: Regional tightness and its impact - Management confirmed that while some regions are tightening, there is evidence of avoidance behavior among drivers, but overall, the impact on the market is significant [47]