Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance(REFI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The loan portfolio principal totaled approximately $400 million as of September 30, 2025, with a weighted average yield to maturity of 16.5%, down from 16.8% in the previous quarter [10] - Net interest income for Q3 2025 was $13.7 million, a decrease of 5.1% from $14.4 million in Q2 2025, primarily due to non-recurring fees and the impact of a 25 basis point rate cut [13][14] - Distributable earnings per weighted average share were approximately $0.50 and $0.49 for basic and fully diluted shares, respectively, a modest decrease from $0.52 and $0.51 in the previous quarter [15] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Gross originations during the quarter were $39.5 million, with $11 million advanced to a new borrower and $20 million related to a new credit facility [10] - The portfolio consisted of 36.7% fixed-rate loans and 63.3% floating-rate loans, with only 14% exposed to further rate declines due to interest rate floors [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted challenges in private credit markets, including declining interest rates and concerns over underwriting standards, which have led to trading at a discount to book value [6] - The cannabis pipeline currently stands at approximately $441 million, diversified across various growth investments and market activities [7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company focuses on principal protection and disciplined capital deployment in limited license jurisdictions, supporting fundamentally sound growth initiatives [7] - Management expressed confidence in the cannabis sector and the company's strategy, highlighting a robust platform to meet industry growth [8] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the volatile private credit environment but emphasized consistent execution and performance [5] - The company is optimistic about the cannabis market, particularly in states like Virginia, which is seen as an attractive market for future growth [24] Other Important Information - Total leverage was 33% of book equity as of September 30, down from 39% in the previous quarter [12] - The company expects to maintain a dividend payout ratio of 90% to 100% for the 2025 tax year, with potential special dividends if taxable income requires it [15] Q&A Session Summary Question: Discussion on the pipeline and ESOP opportunities - Management confirmed that ESOPs continue to be a significant part of the pipeline, with no significant exits other than normal turnover [19] Question: Update on maturing loans - Management is negotiating terms to extend maturing loans and expects to retain the majority of them [21] Question: Opportunities in Virginia's cannabis market - Management views Virginia as an attractive market due to its controlled licensure structure and potential for recreational market growth [24] Question: Underwriting approach and success factors - Management highlighted a focus on limited license jurisdictions and operators with diverse earnings streams as key to their underwriting success [28] Question: Lending program update for New York - The New York Social Equity Fund has opted not to draw additional capital, but the company is ready to support future deployments [56]