Chemours(CC) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company exceeded adjusted EBITDA expectations despite ongoing macroeconomic challenges, driven by strong performance in Opteon Refrigerants and lower corporate costs [4][5] - Opteon sales grew by 80% year-over-year, accounting for 80% of total refrigerant sales, up from 58% the previous year, with a 35% adjusted EBITDA margin [5][6] - Consolidated fourth quarter net sales are expected to decrease by 10%-15% sequentially, with adjusted EBITDA projected between $130 million and $160 million [18] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The TSS business reported record Opteon sales, with double-digit growth and strong commercial execution [5][6] - APM business is expected to see low single-digit % decrease in net sales due to global industrial market weakness, with adjusted EBITDA anticipated at $30 million-$40 million [15] - TT business is projected to experience a sequential net sales decrease in the high single digits to low teens % range, primarily due to seasonality and destocking [16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted destocking activities in Western markets, which are expected to be short-term as customers preserve cash [8][10] - Fair trade actions in Europe and finalized actions in Brazil and Saudi Arabia are expected to provide longer-term opportunities in Western markets [10] - The company anticipates a modest recovery in demand in 2026, with restocking efforts expected in the first quarter [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company continues to execute its Pathway to Thrive strategy, focusing on operational excellence, cost reduction, and portfolio management [19][25] - The company is exploring opportunities in critical minerals, with an estimated $90 million in annual mineral sales, leveraging government funding for innovative separation technologies [21][24] - The company is committed to improving its financial position and optimizing its real estate footprint to enhance operational efficiency [19][25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving double-digit Opteon growth into early 2026, driven by OEM transitions [12][43] - The company remains focused on controlling costs and aligning production with anticipated demand, despite ongoing macroeconomic challenges [17][19] - Management acknowledged that operational disruptions experienced in 2025 are now resolved, positioning the company for improved performance in 2026 [36][54] Other Important Information - The company incurred higher-than-anticipated one-time costs related to liquid cooling product development, which are expected to decrease in the future [6][56] - The company is reviewing its business portfolio for potential value creation opportunities, including critical minerals and data centers [19][32] Q&A Session Summary Question: Insights on TSS business performance and expectations for 2026 - Management highlighted strong performance in TSS, with expectations for continued double-digit growth driven by a broad portfolio and effective quota management [29][30] Question: Concerns about managing multiple growth opportunities - Management expressed confidence in their ability to manage various initiatives under the Pathway to Thrive strategy, focusing on operational excellence and portfolio optimization [32][33] Question: Updates on operational performance within the TT business - Management confirmed that operational disruptions are resolved, and they are implementing contingency plans to enhance reliability [36][38] Question: Confidence in TiO2 price increases despite weak demand - Management indicated stability in pricing within fair trade markets and expressed confidence in customer restocking in early 2026 [39][40] Question: Impact of destocking on future performance - Management acknowledged the impact of destocking but emphasized that share gains and operational improvements will balance the effects [74] Question: Importance of architectural coatings to overall profit pool - Architectural coatings represent approximately 70% of the TT business, highlighting their significance [76] Question: Future of refrigerant gases and innovation - Management confirmed ongoing innovation in next-generation refrigerants, aiming to address environmental concerns [78] Question: Industry pricing and volume impacts from competitor actions - Management noted that competitor inventory liquidation would have a short-term impact, with expectations for recovery in the current quarter [89]