Ares(US:ARES)2025-11-18 18:02Summary of Ares Management and Blue Owl Conference Call Industry Overview - The conference focused on the alternative asset management industry, particularly private credit and direct lending, highlighting its resilience and growth potential [1][2][3] Key Companies Discussed - Ares Management (NYSE: ARES) - Co-President: Kipp deVeer - Blue Owl - Co-CEO: Mark Lipschultz Core Insights and Arguments Ares Management - Ares has five credit businesses: two direct lending businesses in the U.S. and Europe, an asset-based finance business, a loan and high-yield business, and an opportunistic credit business [3][4] - The firm has experienced significant growth, with a focus on strategic initiatives and operational improvements [6][7] - Ares emphasizes the importance of scale in credit, allowing for better origination and underwriting capabilities [20][21] - The firm operates a capital-light, fee-driven business model, focusing on high cash flow and high dividend returns [30][32] Blue Owl - Blue Owl has evolved from a direct lending business to include asset-based lending and digital infrastructure, maintaining a focus on capital solutions and downside protection [10][11][12] - The firm has achieved substantial growth, with its real assets business growing from $12.5 billion to $45 billion in assets [13] - Blue Owl's strategy emphasizes serving both individual and institutional investors equally [12] Important Trends and Observations - The alternative asset management industry has seen a shift towards capital-light, fee-driven models, which are becoming more prevalent among firms like Ares and Blue Owl [28][29] - Volatility in the market is viewed positively, as it allows firms to deploy capital into higher-quality companies and better spreads [33][34][36] - The firms have developed expertise in managing assets during volatile markets, which has historically led to accelerated growth [34][35] Risk Management and Portfolio Diversification - Ares and Blue Owl maintain diversified portfolios with low leverage, which helps mitigate risks during economic downturns [53][54][56] - The average position size in Ares' portfolio is sub-20 basis points, providing a significant equity cushion [53] - The firms emphasize the importance of maintaining high credit standards and rigorous underwriting processes to ensure portfolio durability [44][45] Software Lending and AI Impact - The software lending sector is highlighted as a high-performing area within the portfolios, with low default rates and strong performance metrics [81][82] - The firms are cautious about the risks associated with AI but believe that their selected software companies have strong fundamentals and market positions [85][90] Conclusion - Both Ares and Blue Owl are positioned well within the alternative asset management industry, leveraging their scale, diversified portfolios, and strategic focus on capital-light models to navigate market volatility and capitalize on growth opportunities [62][63][64]