Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
YoudaoYoudao(US:DAO)2025-11-20 11:02

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3 2025, net revenues reached RMB 1.6 billion, up 3.6% year-over-year, while operating profit was RMB 28.3 million, a decline of 73.7% year-over-year due to increased investments and a high comparison base from the previous year [4][5][16] - For the first nine months of the year, operating profit reached RMB 161.1 million, representing a substantial 149.2% year-over-year increase [5] - Operating cash outflow for the quarter was RMB 58.6 million, an improvement of 31.4% year-over-year [5] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Learning services segment net revenues were RMB 643.1 million, down 16.2% year-over-year, reflecting a strategic approach to customer acquisition [6][17] - Online marketing services net revenues reached RMB 739.7 million, a new record and an increase of 51.1% year-over-year, driven by demand from the NetEase Group and overseas markets [10][11][17] - Smart devices segment net revenues were RMB 245.8 million, down 22.1% year-over-year, due to disciplined marketing expenditures [14][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Youdao Ling Shi achieved over 40% year-over-year growth in gross billings, with a retention rate exceeding 75% [7][27] - Advertising revenues from the gaming industry grew by over 50% year-over-year, primarily from NetEase [11] - The overseas advertising business delivered strong momentum, with revenues growing by more than 100% year-over-year [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on executing an AI-native strategy, enhancing the application of its large language model across learning and advertising businesses [15][42] - There is a commitment to driving growth in both learning and advertising sectors by leveraging AI technologies [27][42] - The company aims to achieve full-year targets, including robust year-over-year operating profit growth and reaching annual operational cash flow break-even for the first time [15][42] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving full-year cash flow break-even despite cumulative net operating cash outflow recorded in the first three quarters [50] - The company anticipates strong revenue growth in both learning services and online marketing services, with a focus on customer satisfaction and operational efficiency [25][40] - Management highlighted the importance of investments in AI capabilities to enhance advertising performance and customer engagement [25][36] Other Important Information - Youdao was included in the 2026 GSV 150, recognizing it as one of the world's most transformational growth companies in digital learning [7] - The company launched several new AI-driven products, including an AI tutor for programming classes and a new AI audio and video translation product [8][10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Will online marketing services become more important than learning services in the future? - Management sees growth opportunities in both areas, with online marketing services currently experiencing higher growth due to advanced ad tech and AI capabilities [24] Question: What is the plan to return online marketing gross margin above 30%? - Management aims to improve gross margin through initiatives like broadening the application of the iMagicBox platform and optimizing data management systems [32][35] Question: What is the potential for operating profit rebound in Q4? - Management is optimistic about achieving operating profit improvement in Q4, supported by strong performance in Youdao Ling Shi and advertising growth [38][41] Question: Should we expect any change to the full-year break-even target? - Management remains confident in achieving the full-year cash flow break-even target, citing significant improvements in cash flow performance [47][50]