Sonic Automotive(SAH) - 2025 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Reported GAAP EPS for Q4 2025 was $1.36 per share, with adjusted EPS at $1.52 per share, reflecting a 1% increase year-over-year [4] - Consolidated total revenues for Q4 were $3.9 billion, down 1% year-over-year, while full-year revenues reached an all-time record of $15.2 billion, up 7% year-over-year [4][5] - Consolidated total gross profit for the full year was $2.4 billion, up 9% year-over-year, and consolidated Adjusted EBITDA grew 10% to $615 million [5] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Franchise dealership segment revenues for Q4 were $3.4 billion, flat year-over-year, with a 5% decrease in same-store new vehicle retail volume, partially offset by a 5% increase in same-store used vehicle retail volume [5][6] - EchoPark revenues for Q4 were $481 million, down 5% year-over-year, but gross profit reached a record $54 million, up 9% year-over-year [8] - Powersports segment revenues for Q4 were $36 million, up 19% year-over-year, with gross profit also reaching a record of $9 million, up 25% year-over-year [10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Same-store new vehicle gross profit per unit (GPU) was $3,033, down 7% year-over-year, while new vehicle GPU on a reported basis was $3,209, down 1% year-over-year [7] - EchoPark segment total GPU was a record $3,420 per unit, up 15% year-over-year [8] - The average retail selling price of new vehicles reached over $62,000 in Q4, indicating a trend of increasing vehicle prices [39] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to expand the EchoPark platform to reach 90% of U.S. car buyers, targeting over 1 million vehicles sold annually [9] - Investment in brand marketing is expected to be key for long-term growth, with plans to increase advertising expenses by $10-$20 million in 2026 [10] - The company is focused on leveraging its new car franchise dealerships for inventory sourcing to reduce dependence on auction lanes [25][26] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed concerns about potential pricing pressures due to tariffs and the impact on consumer affordability as new car prices continue to rise [40][41] - The company remains optimistic about the growth potential in the EchoPark segment, especially as inventory conditions improve [107] - Management highlighted the importance of maintaining strong relationships with manufacturer partners to navigate challenges in vehicle production and pricing [12] Other Important Information - The company ended the quarter with $702 million in available liquidity and repurchased approximately 600,000 shares for about $38 million in Q4 [11] - A quarterly cash dividend of $0.38 per share was approved, payable on April 15, 2026 [11] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you discuss EchoPark's position in the used car ecosystem? - Management views EchoPark as a low-cost provider in the pre-owned vehicle market, aiming to sell over 1 million vehicles annually and expand coverage [20][21] Question: What is the plan for advertising spend? - The $10 million-$20 million advertising budget will focus on brand building and will begin in the second quarter, with a broader rollout expected in 2027 [32][34] Question: How is the company addressing fixed operations growth? - The company has increased technician numbers significantly and sees potential for $100 million a month in fixed operations growth, targeting mid-single-digit growth in this segment [55][92] Question: What are the expectations for new car pricing and consumer behavior? - Management anticipates that new car prices will continue to rise, which may affect consumer affordability, but believes this will benefit the used car market [40][41] Question: How is the company planning to leverage technology in service operations? - The company is investing in a digital retail solution and plans to launch an EchoPark app to enhance customer experience and streamline the buying process [98][99]