Ampco-Pittsburgh(AP) - 2025 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for Q4 was $3.2 million, down from $6 million the prior year, driven by a pause in customer orders due to new global tariffs [4] - Full year consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $29.2 million, an improvement from the prior year [4][22] - Net sales for Q4 were $108.8 million, an increase of $7.8 million compared to Q4 2024, while full year net sales were $434.2 million, up $3.8 million from the prior year [21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Air and Liquid Processing segment achieved record revenue and adjusted EBITDA in 2025, with Q4 revenue 10% higher than the prior year and full year revenue 7% above the prior year [6][7] - Forged and Cast Engineered Products (FCEP) reported Q4 net sales of $70.9 million, up from $66.5 million in Q4 2024, and full year net sales of $292.6 million, stable compared to $286.6 million in the prior year [12] - FCEP adjusted EBITDA for Q4 was $2.2 million, down from $5.5 million in the prior year, while full year adjusted EBITDA was $24.4 million [13] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Backlog for Air and Liquid declined by $8 million year-over-year, primarily due to the U.S. Navy's termination of the Constellation-class frigate program [8] - Significant order activity was noted at the start of 2026, with bookings up 73% compared to the prior year [8] - Demand for heat exchangers in the nuclear market reached record levels, indicating long-term growth potential [9] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company initiated the removal of underperforming assets to improve adjusted EBITDA by $7-$8 million annually [4] - Focus on optimizing the Sweden facility and ramping up production to meet expected market growth [13][15] - Anticipation of significant margin expansion in the second half of 2026 and full year 2027 due to operational improvements and tariff protections [17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about emerging from the steel market slowdown and improving profitability in 2026 [52] - The company noted that the roll market is recovering, and shutdown costs are behind them [25] - Management highlighted strong demand in the nuclear and AI data center markets, positioning the company for growth [10][9] Other Important Information - The company recorded significant one-time charges related to the exit from unprofitable operations, totaling $42.4 million in Q4 and $52.2 million for the full year [19] - The pension plan achieved fully funded status in early 2026, enhancing the company's liquidity position [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Inquiry about Air and Liquid Processing margins - Management indicated that Q4 margins were affected by an unusual mix, and the full year is more representative of typical performance [29] Question: Clarification on customer behavior changes in Forged and Cast rolls - Management explained that customer behavior was impacted by tariff calculations, leading to a pause in orders, but demand is now recovering [32][34] Question: Involvement with Westinghouse's AP1000 reactors - Management confirmed past supply to Westinghouse and noted positive indicators for future activity in the nuclear market [46][48]