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Walker & Dunlop(WD) - 2023 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Walker & Dunlop's revenues fell 15% in Q3 2023, resulting in total revenues of $269 million, with total transaction volumes down 49% year-over-year to $8.6 billion [6][10] - Diluted earnings per share declined 54% to $0.64, while adjusted core EPS was down only 21% to $1.11 per share [93][108] - Adjusted EBITDA decreased by 1% to $74 million, demonstrating stability in recurring revenue streams [93][108] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Servicing and Asset Management (SAM) segment saw revenues increase by 15% year-over-year to $148 million, with net income up 47% [8] - Debt brokerage volume declined 52% year-over-year to $3.1 billion, reflecting challenges in non-multifamily acquisitions and financing markets [7] - The asset management business generated over $110 million in annual revenues, indicating strong growth potential [23] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The multifamily acquisitions market improved slightly, with property sales of $2.5 billion, down 50% year-over-year but up 67% from Q2 2023 [15] - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have deployed only $74 billion of their $150 billion annual multifamily lending caps, indicating a lack of demand in the current market [15] - The overall commercial real estate transaction activity remained low, with Q3 2023 transaction volume down 49% compared to the same quarter last year [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on building a sustainable business model that can withstand market cycles, emphasizing the importance of its servicing and asset management segments [14][20] - Walker & Dunlop aims to capitalize on its brand and scale as financing and sales volumes are expected to return in the coming years [7] - The company is committed to its five-year strategic plan, "The Drive to '25," targeting $2 billion in revenues and $13 per share of earnings [14][114] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed concerns about the current macroeconomic conditions, particularly the rising interest rates impacting transaction volumes [14][50] - The expectation is that the market will transition from a "wait and see" attitude in 2023 to a more active "I must move" market in 2024, driven by the need to refinance maturing loans [106][113] - Management remains optimistic about the company's positioning for growth when the market stabilizes, highlighting the strength of its servicing and asset management platform [21][100] Other Important Information - The company has reduced its headcount, resulting in annualized personnel-related savings of $25 million, which contributed to stabilizing financial results [20] - Walker & Dunlop's technology investments in small-balance lending and appraisals are expected to drive growth and efficiency in its operations [23][94] - The company has a strong cash position of $236 million at the end of the quarter, allowing it to maintain liquidity and pay dividends [111] Q&A Session Summary Question: Impact of GSEs' new restrictions on W&D - Management noted that the implications of new restrictions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are minimal for Walker & Dunlop, as less than 10% of its deal flow comes through brokers [116] Question: Interest rate outlook and transaction volumes - Management indicated that stabilization of interest rates could lead to increased transaction volumes, but emphasized the need for cap rates to adjust accordingly [120] Question: Growth opportunities in asset management and affordable housing - Management highlighted the significant growth potential in the asset management space and the importance of affordable housing, particularly with the Alliant acquisition [71][135]