Pearl Diver Credit Company (NYSE:PDCC) Q3 2025 Earnings Call November 18, 2025 11:00 AM ET Company ParticipantsEmma Little - Head of Investor RelationsIndranil Basu - CEO, Founder, and Managing PartnerChandrajit Chakraborty - CIO and Managing PartnerConference Call ParticipantsGaurav Mehta - Managing Director and Senior Equity Research AnalystEric Zweck - AnalystOperatorThanks, and welcome to the Pearl Diver Credit Company third quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only ...

Pearl Diver Credit Company (NYSE:PDCC) Q3 2025 Earnings Call November 18, 2025 11:00 AM ET Company ParticipantsEmma Little - Head of Investor RelationsIndranil Basu - CEO, Founder, and Managing PartnerChandrajit Chakraborty - CIO and Managing PartnerConference Call ParticipantsGaurav Mehta - Managing Director and Senior Equity Research AnalystEric Zweck - AnalystOperatorThanks, and welcome to the Pearl Diver Credit Company third quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only ...

Pearl Diver Credit Company (NYSE:PDCC) Q3 2025 Earnings Call November 18, 2025 11:00 AM ET Speaker2Thanks, and welcome to the Pearl Diver Credit Company third quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conferen ...

Pearl Diver Credit Company (NYSE:PDCC) Q3 2025 Earnings Call November 18, 2025 11:00 AM ET Speaker0Morning, and welcome to the Pearl Diver Credit Company Third Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Emma Little, Investor Relations.Thank you. You may begin.Speaker1Good day, ladie ...

Pearl Diver Credit Company Inc. (NYSE: PDCC, PDPA) 2025 Q3 Earnings Presentation November 18, 2025 1 Disclaimer This presentation and the information and views included herein do not constitute investment advice, or a recommendation or an offer to enter into any transaction with Pearl Diver Credit Company Inc. ("PDCC" or the "Company") or any of its affiliates. This presentation is provided for informational purposes only, does not constitute an offer to sell securities of the Company or a solicitation of a ...

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Core Points - Pearl Diver Credit Company Inc. will release its third quarter 2025 financial results on November 18, 2025, before market open [1] - A conference call to discuss the financial results is scheduled for the same day at 11:00 am Eastern Time / 4:00 pm UK Time [1][2] - The company is externally managed and focuses on maximizing total return and generating high current income through investments in equity and junior debt tranches of CLOs [4] Company Overview - Pearl Diver Credit Company Inc. is a non-diversified, closed-end management investment company listed on NYSE under the symbols PDCC and PDPA [4] - The company primarily invests in sub-investment grade, senior secured floating-rate debt issued by various US companies across multiple sectors [4] - As of September 30, 2025, Pearl Diver Capital manages approximately $2.9 billion in assets across multiple private funds backed by institutional investors [6] Management and Strategy - Pearl Diver Capital LLP, founded in 2008, specializes in CLO investing and employs advanced analytics to identify investment opportunities [5] - The firm has established relationships with over 80 CLO managers, providing access to critical credit information while avoiding conflicts of interest [6]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For the quarter ended June 30, 2025, the company reported investment income of $5.5 million or $0.81 per share, down from $6 million in the prior quarter due to decreased yield on CLO equity investments caused by market-wide loan spread compression [15] - Total expenses for the quarter were $2.4 million or $0.35 per share, resulting in net investment income of $3.1 million or $0.46 per share [15] - The net income for the quarter was $3.5 million or $0.52 per share, with recurring cash flows totaling $8 million or $1.18 per share, exceeding distributions and expenses by $0.16 per share [15][16] - As of June 30, 2025, total assets were $166.1 million and total net assets were $123.6 million, leading to a net asset value (NAV) per share of $18.19, which increased to $18.48 by July 31, 2025 [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company recorded an unrealized gain on investments of $500,000 and a modest net realized loss of $70,000 during the quarter [15] - The weighted average GAAP yield on the portfolio decreased to 12.75% as of June 30, down from 15.57% as of March 31, primarily due to market-wide loan spread compression [7][8] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The CLO market remained resilient during a period of macro uncertainty and has since rebounded, with loan fundamentals remaining strong [6] - The trailing twelve-month payment default rate rose to approximately 1.1% as of June 30, 2025, up from 0.91% as of December 2024, but still below the post-pandemic peak of 1.75% [39] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company emphasizes a data-driven investment approach utilizing machine learning technology and proprietary algorithms to maintain agility and seek relative value in the CLO space [8][9] - The portfolio is diversified across 52 unique CLO positions managed by 31 distinct CLO manager platforms, with no significant concentration in any single CLO [11][12] - The company plans to continue leveraging its unique infrastructure to identify mispricings and attractive investment opportunities [10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the long-term resilience of the CLO asset class despite macro uncertainties, highlighting the efficient access to senior secured corporate loans [19] - The company anticipates continued refinancing and reset activity into 2025, with five minority positions already successfully reset or refinanced in Q3 [34] Other Important Information - The company distributed dividends of $0.22 per common share in April, May, June, and July, with plans for similar distributions in the following months, representing an annualized dividend yield of approximately 14.7% [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: Inquiry about recurring cash flow for comparative purposes - Management confirmed that recurring cash flow for Q1 was $7.7 million [21][24] Question: Thoughts on increasing leverage - Management stated that leverage levels will vary over time and will be utilized opportunistically based on investment opportunities and cost of leverage [22][24] Question: Composition of current pipeline regarding primary vs secondary opportunities and U.S. vs European CLO positions - Management indicated that the primary market currently presents interesting opportunities, while the secondary market has provided better relative value recently [25][29] Question: Quantification of opportunities for resets and refinancings within the portfolio - Management expects refinancing and reset activity to continue, with five minority positions already reset or refinanced in Q3 [33][34] Question: NAV reaction to the credit environment after the sell-off in April - Management noted that NAV increased post-sell-off due to strong loan fundamentals and significant refinancing activity [38][39]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q2 2025, the company reported investment income of $5.5 million or $0.81 per share, down from $6 million in the prior quarter due to decreased yield on CLO equity investments caused by market-wide loan spread compression [15] - Total expenses for the quarter were $2.4 million or $0.35 per share, resulting in net investment income of $3.1 million or $0.46 per share [15] - The net income for the quarter was $3.5 million or $0.52 per share, with recurring cash flows totaling $8 million or $1.18 per share, exceeding distributions and expenses by $0.16 per share [16][18] - As of June 30, total assets were $166.1 million and total net assets were $123.6 million, leading to a net asset value (NAV) per share of $18.19, which increased to $18.48 by July 31 [17] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The weighted average GAAP yield on the portfolio decreased to 12.75% as of June 30 from 15.57% as of March 31, primarily due to market-wide loan spread compression [7][8] - The company maintained a diversified portfolio with 52 unique CLO positions managed by 31 distinct CLO manager platforms, consisting of approximately 1,800 unique loans across over 30 industry sectors [12][13] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The CLO market showed resilience during macroeconomic uncertainty, with loan fundamentals remaining strong and managers adapting quickly to market conditions [6] - The trailing twelve-month payment default rate rose to approximately 1.1% as of June, up from 0.91% as of December 2024, but still below the post-pandemic peak of 1.75% [40] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company emphasized its data-driven investment approach, utilizing machine learning and proprietary algorithms to maintain a competitive edge in the CLO market [9][10] - The management plans to continue leveraging its unique infrastructure to identify mispricings and attractive investment opportunities, with a focus on both primary and secondary market opportunities [10][31] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the long-term resilience of the CLO asset class despite macro uncertainties, highlighting the efficient access to senior secured corporate loans [20] - The company anticipates continued refinancing and reset activity into 2025, with five minority positions successfully reset or refinanced in Q3 [35] Other Important Information - The company distributed dividends of $0.22 per common share in April, May, June, and July, with plans to continue this distribution in August, September, and October, representing an annualized dividend yield of approximately 14.7% [18] Q&A Session Summary Question: Recurring cash flow comparison with the prior quarter - Management confirmed that recurring cash flow for Q1 was $7.7 million, similar to the current quarter's level [22][24] Question: Thoughts on increasing leverage - Management stated that leverage levels will vary over time, and they evaluate investment opportunities daily, considering the cost of leverage compared to expected returns [23][24] Question: Composition of current pipeline in terms of primary vs secondary opportunities and U.S. vs European CLO positions - Management indicated that the relative value of opportunities drives their decisions, noting interesting opportunities in the primary market while the secondary market has provided better relative value recently [25][28] Question: Quantifying opportunities for resets and refinancings - Management expects refinancing and reset activity to continue, with five minority positions successfully reset or refinanced in Q3 [35] Question: NAV reaction to the credit environment post-sell off - Management noted that NAV increased post-sell off due to strong loan technicals and significant refinancing activity, with credit fundamentals remaining stable [39]

Core Viewpoint - Pearl Diver Credit Company Inc. reported solid financial results for the second quarter of 2025, maintaining net asset value per share and leveraging a machine learning approach to CLO equity investing to enhance portfolio returns [2][5]. Financial Performance - Net asset value per share was $18.19 as of June 30, 2025, down from $18.33 as of March 31, 2025 [5]. - GAAP net income for the quarter was $3.5 million, or $0.52 per share [5]. - Net investment income for the quarter was $3.1 million, or $0.46 per share [5]. - Investment income for the quarter totaled $5.5 million, or $0.81 per share [5]. - Total expenses for the quarter were $2.4 million, or $0.35 per share [5]. - The net change in unrealized appreciation on investments was $0.5 million, or $0.07 per share, compared to unrealized depreciation of $9.6 million, or $1.41 per share, in the previous quarter [5]. - Recurring cash flows from CLO investments for the quarter were $8.0 million, or $1.18 per share [5]. Portfolio and Investment Strategy - The Company had leverage of $40.4 million, representing 24.3% of total assets as of June 30, 2025, compared to 23.2% as of March 31, 2025 [5]. - The weighted average effective yield of the CLO portfolio was 12.75%, down from 15.57% as of March 31, 2025, due to market-wide loan spread compression [5]. - 95% of CLOs in the portfolio have reinvestment end dates from 2026 through 2030, indicating potential for favorable reinvestment opportunities [5]. - The Company had indirect exposure to approximately 1,285 unique corporate obligors and over 1,800 underlying loans, totaling $24.4 billion [5]. - The largest look-through obligor represented 0.7% of the loans in the CLO equity portfolio, while the top ten largest obligors represented 4.7% [5]. Dividends and Future Outlook - Net asset value per share increased to $18.48 as of July 31, 2025, a 1.6% increase from June 30, 2025 [5]. - The Company declared monthly dividends of $0.22 per share for August, September, and October 2025 [5].