I don't know if you've heard, okay, but 2028 is underway. Yes, you heard me right. 2028, not 2026, 2028.And if you don't believe me, take a listen to Gavin Nuome talking about whether he would consider running after the midterms. >> Who the hell knows. I'm looking forward to who presents themselves in 2028 and and who meets that moment.And and and that's the question for the American people. They'll make it fair to say after the 2026 midterms, you're going to give it serious thought. >> Yeah, I'd be lying. ...

Earlier this week, President Trump floated running for president again in 2028. Are you comfortable with those comments. And you're a constitutional lawyer that violates >> Well, there is the 22nd amendment.It's been a great run. Uh but I I think the president knows and he and I have talked about uh the constrictions of the Constitution as much as so many the American people lament that. Um the Trump 2028 cap is one of the most popular that's ever been been produced and he has a a good time with that.um tro ...

Joining us now, staff writer at The New Yorker, Susan Glasser, assistant professor of law at Georgia State University, Anthony Michael Crease, and staff writer for The Atlantic, Franklin for uh and former Ohio Governor and MSNBC political analyst, John Kasich. Thank you all for being with us. And Susan, the president himself has said that a third term is no joke, that he's not joking about this.Should we be now taking Bannon and the president at their word. Well, look, I mean, Donald Trump is actually activ ...

Peter Baker is back with me. I also want to bring in Pulitzer Prizew winning columnist and MSNBC political analyst Eugene Robinson. So, look, Peter, you know that this isn't the first time the idea of Trump 2028 has been floated.Uh, he did a phone call with NBC News back in March. He said he wasn't joking about another term. Um, but do we know what alternative to the 22nd amendment might mean.Well, just to be clear for viewers who may not remember, the 22nd amendment says very clearly, no sh no person shall ...