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Stellantis(STLA) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-21 13:32
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For the first half of 2025, the company reported net revenues of approximately €74.3 billion and adjusted operating income (AOI) of approximately €540 million, with a net loss of approximately €2.3 billion, including unusual items [6][10] - Industrial free cash flow was reported as a €3 billion outflow, which was attributed to insufficient AOI generation to cover capital expenditures and R&D spending [12][13] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company experienced lower than expected volumes, particularly in the European light commercial vehicle (LCV) market, which was down about 13% year-to-date [21][22] - The ramp-up of newly launched products was slower than anticipated, impacting overall shipments [20][21] - The company noted a significant impact from higher industrial costs, including warranty costs and fixed asset absorption due to lower volumes [9][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a €1 billion to €1.5 billion net tariff impact for the full year 2025, with approximately €330 million felt in the first half [5][10] - Foreign exchange impacts were noted at just under €1 billion year-over-year, primarily due to the strengthening of the euro against the U.S. dollar and Brazilian real [9] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to reestablish current period financial guidance during the H1 2025 update call on July 29, which will encapsulate expected improvements in the second half [16][58] - The management emphasized the importance of product launches, including new B and C segment entries in Europe, to drive recovery and improve market share [15][16] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the challenging operating environment, citing economic and regulatory uncertainties that have led commercial customers to delay fleet renewals [22] - The company expressed optimism about the potential for improvement in the second half of 2025, driven by new product launches and a focus on regaining market share, particularly in the fleet segment [34][37] Other Important Information - The company noted that total vehicle inventories at the end of the first half of 2025 were unchanged, with OEM inventories up by about 60,000 units and dealer inventories down by about 60,000 units [13][14] - Management highlighted the need for continued investment in the business despite cash outflows in the first half [54] Q&A Session Summary Question: Continued share losses in the U.S. and Europe - Management indicated that market share in Europe increased by about 130 basis points compared to the second half of the previous year, despite challenges in the LCV market [20][21] Question: Operating leverage and margins in Middle East and LatAm - Management confirmed strong performance in the Middle East and LatAm, with expectations for positive traction in operating leverage and margins [24][25] Question: Gap between operating cash flow and free cash flow - Management explained that the negative cash flow was influenced by increased capital use in the financial services business, which is growing rapidly [29][30] Question: Regaining market share in fleet, particularly for Ram - Management highlighted the reintroduction of the V8 engine in the Ram pickup and plans to improve production numbers to regain lost market share [34][37] Question: Competitive pressure in Europe - Management acknowledged increased competitive pressure in Europe but noted that new product launches are expected to help mitigate this [42][43] Question: Tariff impacts and expectations for the second half - Management indicated that the €330 million tariff impact in the first half is not representative of what is expected in the second half, with potential for that figure to double [46][47] Question: Liquidity and cash generation outlook - Management reassured that liquidity remains sufficient, targeting 25% to 30% of trailing twelve months revenues, and emphasized the need to turn positive in industrial free cash flow [52][54]