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LI AUTO(LI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-26 13:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total revenues in Q3 2025 were RMB 27.4 billion, a decrease of 36.2% year over year and 9.5% quarter over quarter [25] - Vehicle sales contributed RMB 25.9 billion, down 37.4% year over year and 10.4% quarter over quarter, primarily due to lower vehicle deliveries [25] - Gross profit was RMB 4.5 billion, down 51.6% year over year and 26.3% quarter over quarter, with a vehicle margin of 15.5% compared to 20.9% in the same period last year [26] - Operating expenses were RMB 5.6 billion, down 2.5% year over year and up 7.8% quarter over quarter [27] - Net loss in Q3 was RMB 624.4 million, compared to a net income of RMB 2.8 billion in the same period last year [29] - Cash position remained strong with a balance of RMB 98.9 billion at the end of the quarter [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - R&D expenses increased to RMB 3 billion, up 15% year over year, reflecting investments in new vehicle programs and technology [27] - SG&A expenses decreased to RMB 2.8 billion, down 17.6% year over year, mainly due to prior year share-based compensation expenses [28] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company expects deliveries in Q4 2025 to be between 100,000 and 110,000 vehicles, with total revenue projected between RMB 26.5 billion and RMB 29.2 billion [30] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to revert to an entrepreneurial model starting Q4 2025, focusing on long-term product and technology development [10][23] - Emphasis will be placed on developing embodied AI products, which are seen as the future of automotive technology [15][22] - The company aims to enhance user experience through a full-stack AI system, with a focus on in-house developed technologies [36][62] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged challenges in supply chain and product lifecycle impacting operations and deliveries [4] - The company is optimistic about the NEV penetration rate in China, expecting it to reach 55-60% in 2026 [47] - Management expressed confidence in navigating market cycles and leading technological transformation [23] Other Important Information - The company is implementing a dual supplier strategy for batteries to address production ramp-up challenges [42] - The recall of the Li Mega was recognized in Q3 due to its impact on operations and deliveries [55] Q&A Session Summary Question: What technology or product progress can be expected in 2026? - The company will launch an AI system based on the M100 chips, enhancing user experience and transitioning products to more proactive machines [33] Question: How is the company preparing for the transition from EREV to BEV? - The company is focusing on in-house development of electric drive systems, battery systems, and electronic control to ensure a smooth transition [35][36] Question: What is the impact of the upcoming changes in trade-in subsidy policy? - The company anticipates a pull-forward effect in deliveries at the end of 2025, followed by a dip in Q1 2026, but remains optimistic about long-term growth [47] Question: What updates can be provided regarding the recall of the Mega? - The recall was recognized in Q3 as a subsequent event, and the company is fulfilling recall requirements by reallocating battery packs [55] Question: What is the progress on in-house developed SOC and operating system? - The company has reduced development time and costs through in-house design and has open-sourced Halo OS for collaborative development [62]