It's day 23 of the government shutdown. It's the second longest in US history. And joining us right now for the latest is Congressman Ro K Connor of California whose district is in the heart of Silicon Valley. Ro, thank you for coming in. Um, >> turn into the on camera Roana now >> because we just had a long conversation off camera. We agreed on what we probably should do, which is the way we always do it. Well, what what we should do first of all, we may not agree on this point, but why why can't we get an ...

I want to bring in now Congressman Jim Klyber of South Carolina Carolina, the longtime Democratic whip. Congressman, it's great to see you. You've seen shutdowns like this before, but does this one feel different to you.Because it does to me covering it. >> Well, thank you very much for having me. This one feels different because it is different.We've never had a shutdown, at least since I've been in the Congress 30 plus years, when people refuse to even allow uh the climate to exist for negotiations. When ...

Is that normal? I It would be more normal not on camera. You know, I I we've seen our fair share of fights, you know, to the side of the cloak room or this or that. I I think that this is more of a recent phenomenon, but it is absolutely and totally justified. Yeah. You know, Yeah. No, look, I I think that there there was this culture in in Congress, even 8 years ago, 6 years ago of civility that just the times don't warrant. Not not in the face of trillion dollar cuts to healthcare, not in the face of vete ...