The vast majority of the um allegations that Israel's committing genocide in Gaza happened in the time that Jake Sullivan was in office. This was happening while he was in office. I don't want to say it was worse or better. I don't want to say it's gotten worse.The situation is obviously disastrous. But how do you explain what Jake Sullivan is doing now there when you have every major international human rights organization, Israeli human rights organization have come out and said this is a genocide. famine ...

Joining us now, resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and director of Realign for Palestine, Ahmed Fouad Al-Hib, counselor for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and MSNBC foreign affairs analyst and author of Statecraft 2.0%, what America needs to lead in a multi-olar world. Ambassador Dennis Ross and Susan Glasser still sticking around with us. Susan, starting with you, let's talk Trump's stance here on this conflict. In your latest reporting, you say that casting this as merely just a ...