Steph, I I think there's something fascinating happening though with his base, specifically a segment of the base that I'm familiar with as a dude with a Twitter internet addiction. Um, there are a bunch of apolitical people out there who were into this whole campaign. The premise of Donald Trump, the promise of him because he was going to get the deep state because there were pedophiles conspiratorally functioning with the protection of the most powerful people in the world.and he has lost that credibility ...

Senator White House, you know, I used to be a a spokesperson for many years and what what we call what the president just did is spin and he is actively working out new spins to this story. I'm I'm wondering your reactions to his latest spin here and can you bring us in a little bit on the strategy that it seems like Democrats, particularly in the Senate, are taking on this Epstein files issue. Well, I think if you look at uh Trump's history, one of the things that you notice is that the word hoax for Donal ...