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The Greenbrier panies(GBX) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-01 22:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net earnings for Q3 2025 were $60.1 million or $1.86 per share, showing an increase both sequentially and year-over-year [4] - Revenue reached $843 million, improving by 11% sequentially [21] - Aggregate gross margin remained robust at 18%, marking the seventh consecutive quarter at or above the mid-teens long-term target [4][22] - Return on invested capital (ROIC) was 12.9%, within the target range of 10% to 14% [23] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The manufacturing gross margin for Q3 was 13.6%, steady from Q2 [11] - Leasing and Fleet Management achieved nearly $165 million in recurring revenue over the last four quarters, representing nearly 50% growth from two years ago [12] - Fleet utilization remained high at 98%, with modest growth in the leased fleet [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Greenbrier secured orders for 3,900 new railcars worth over $500 million in the quarter, with a global new railcar backlog of nearly 19,000 units [15][16] - The average age of the North American railcar fleet exceeds 20 years, driving steady growth in the railcar maintenance market [17] - In Europe, railcar orders are driven by necessity, but overall activity is muted until economic conditions improve [18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on doubling recurring revenues by fiscal 2028 and has renewed two bank facilities totaling $850 million [7] - Greenbrier is investing in manufacturing and leasing, with expected investments of around $145 million in manufacturing and $270 million in leasing and fleet management [26] - The company is positioned to navigate various market conditions and capitalize on opportunities as they arise [8][10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about a strong finish to the fiscal year and medium to long-term market conditions [10] - The Senate's passage of a budget bill is expected to energize markets for capital goods like railcars [9] - Management is confident in the ability to manage production rates in response to market demand and backlog visibility [38][40] Other Important Information - The company repurchased approximately $22 million in shares during the quarter, reflecting confidence in its long-term strategy [10][25] - Liquidity reached nearly $770 million, the highest level since 2023, consisting of almost $300 million in cash and over $470 million in available borrowing capacity [23][24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on interest and FX line items - Management expects interest expense to be in the 22% to 25% range for the quarter, with FX having a significant impact [31][32] Question: Production rates and order levels - Management has been adjusting production rates based on market demand and has a strong backlog of 19,000 cars, indicating optimism for future orders [38][40] Question: Confidence in backlog and order conversion - Management expressed confidence in the commercial team and anticipates that clarity around tariffs and trade policy will lead to increased orders [50][51] Question: Mix of deliveries and leased cars - Management noted that while leased fleet growth has been modest, they are becoming more active in the used car market to balance fleet growth [59]