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Babcock & Wilcox(BW) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-11 22:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported adjusted EBITDA of $21.6 million for Q2 2025, which was over 70% greater than street expectations, primarily driven by a 31% increase in higher margin parts and services revenue [5][8] - Company-wide revenues, including Diamond Power, were $170.8 million, slightly ahead of street expectations, while revenues from continuing operations without Diamond Power were $144.1 million, roughly the same as Q2 2024 [7][13] - Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations was $15.1 million in Q2 2025, a 90% increase compared to $8 million in Q2 2024 [8][16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The parts and services business saw a 31% increase in revenues compared to 2024, driven by rising demand for power and electricity from AI-driven data centers and increased base load generation usage [4][14] - Global parts and service revenue increased by $15.4 million compared to 2024, reflecting the growing need for electricity from fossil fuels [14][16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company anticipates an increase in base load generation by up to 120 gigawatts over the next ten years, primarily driven by data centers [4][25] - The backlog at the end of Q2 was $418.1 million, a 49% increase compared to the same period in 2024, indicating strong demand for services [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on exiting certain large new build projects internationally while expanding its parts and services presence globally [6] - The strategic vision includes exploring the sale of non-strategic assets and refinancing options to reduce debt obligations [10][17] - The company is actively pursuing large upgrades and new builds in the U.S. to support power generation needs, with key announcements expected by the end of the year [6][19] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in returning to positive cash flows in 2025, driven by asset sales, debt reduction, and improved cash flows [9][17] - The company is well-positioned to capitalize on the growing demand for baseload generation while supporting energy security and transition [19] Other Important Information - The sale of Diamond Power International for gross proceeds of $177 million significantly improved the company's balance sheet and net leverage ratios [9][10] - The company has entered into a private bond exchange to reduce annual interest expenses and extend debt maturity [10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Current demand for energy on the thermal side of the business - Management noted an expected increase in baseload generation demand in North America, with potential new coal-fired generation projects being explored [24][25] Question: Thoughts on the second half of the year - Management anticipates a strong year due to the higher margin parts and services aspect, with guidance to be provided before the end of the year [29] Question: Confidence in returning to positive free cash flow in 2025 - Management expressed confidence that the second half of the year will generate positive cash flow, supported by asset sales and growing parts and services revenue [30][31] Question: Dynamic of extending the life of plants on parts and service business - Extending the life of plants creates opportunities for increased parts and services revenue as plants require ongoing maintenance and efficiency improvements [37][38] Question: Bright Loop pipeline and potential projects - Management indicated that there are well over 10 projects in the BrightLoop pipeline, focusing on producing steam and hydrogen while offering CO2 capture options [40][42]