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Nine(NINE) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-08 15:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for Q1 2025 was $150.5 million, an increase of approximately 6% compared to Q4 2024, and within the guidance range of $146 million to $152 million [6] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $16.5 million, reflecting a 17% increase quarter over quarter, with adjusted EBITDA margins at approximately 26% [6][7] - Cash and cash equivalents as of March 31, 2025, were $17.3 million, with total liquidity of $53.8 million [11][12] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Cementing revenue increased by approximately 4% to $57.2 million, with jobs completed rising by approximately 11% [12][13] - Wireline revenue grew by approximately 7% to $29.6 million, with 7,713 wireline stages completed, an increase of approximately 15% [13] - Coiled tubing revenue increased by approximately 16% to $29.9 million, driven by a 36% increase in coiled tubing days [14] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. rig count remained flat in Q1 2025, yet the company achieved revenue growth across all service lines [7] - Pricing across service lines was mostly stable, except for wireline operations in the Northeast, which experienced lower stage pricing due to previous bidding processes [8][9] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on market share gains and cost reductions, with a strong emphasis on technology development and maintaining service quality [6][19] - The recent appointment of Joey Hall to the Board of Directors is aimed at enhancing industry expertise within the company [20] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed uncertainty regarding the impact of declining oil prices and increased costs due to tariffs on future activity levels [16][18] - The company anticipates Q2 revenue to decline compared to Q1, projecting between $138 million and $148 million [19] - Management remains optimistic about the long-term outlook for natural gas and its potential positive impact on earnings [17] Other Important Information - The company refinanced its ABL revolving credit facility, increasing liquidity and financial flexibility [10][11] - The average blended revenue per cementing job decreased by approximately 6%, while the average blended revenue per wireline stage decreased by approximately 7% [12][13] Q&A Session Summary Question: Pricing pressures and impacted business lines - Management indicated that pricing pressure is primarily seen in the cementing division, particularly in West Texas, due to tariff impacts and commodity price evaluations [24][25] Question: Oil price guidance and its implications - Management stated it is too early to provide specific guidance on oil prices, emphasizing the importance of market evaluations by customers [31][32] Question: Ability to pass on tariff costs to customers - Management confirmed plans to pass on tariff costs to customers, as the service sector cannot absorb these increases [33][34] Question: Outlook for natural gas markets - Management expressed excitement about the natural gas market, particularly in Haynesville, but confirmed no plans to relocate equipment at this time [36][37] Question: International tool sales and opportunities - Management reported positive performance in international tool sales and highlighted ongoing development of completion tools to meet stringent international requirements [38][39]
Nine(NINE) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-08 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for Q1 2025 was $150.5 million, an increase of approximately 6% compared to Q4 2024, and within the guidance range of $146 million to $152 million [5] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $16.5 million, reflecting a 17% increase quarter over quarter, with incremental adjusted EBITDA margins of approximately 26% [5][6] - Cash and cash equivalents as of March 31, 2025, were $17.3 million, with total liquidity of $53.8 million [11] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Cementing revenue increased by approximately 4% to $57.2 million, with jobs completed rising by approximately 11% [12][13] - Wireline revenue grew by approximately 7% to $29.6 million, with 7,713 wireline stages completed, an increase of approximately 15% [13] - Coiled tubing revenue increased by approximately 16% to $29.9 million, with utilization significantly higher compared to Q4 [8][14] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. rig count remained flat in Q1, yet the company achieved revenue growth across all service lines [6] - Pricing across service lines was mostly stable, except for wireline operations in the Northeast, which experienced lower stage pricing due to bidding impacts [7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on market share gains and cost reductions, with a strong emphasis on technology development and maintaining service quality [5][19] - The recent appointment of Joey Hall to the Board of Directors is aimed at enhancing industry expertise within the company [20] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted uncertainty in the energy industry due to declining oil prices and increased costs from tariffs, impacting customer plans and activity levels [16][18] - The company anticipates Q2 revenue to decline compared to Q1, projecting between $138 million and $148 million [19] - Management remains optimistic about the long-term outlook for natural gas and its potential positive impact on earnings [17] Other Important Information - The company completed a refinancing of its ABL revolving credit facility, increasing liquidity and financial flexibility [9][10] - General and administrative expenses for Q1 were $13.3 million, with a full-year CapEx budget unchanged at $15 million to $25 million [14][15] Q&A Session Summary Question: Pricing pressures and impacted business lines - Management indicated that pricing pressure is primarily seen in the cementing division, largely due to tariffs and commodity price fluctuations [22][23] Question: Oil price guidance - Management stated it is too early to provide specific guidance on oil prices, emphasizing the importance of market conditions and customer evaluations [27][28] Question: Ability to pass on tariff costs - Management confirmed plans to pass tariff costs onto customers, as the service sector cannot absorb these increases [30][31] Question: Natural gas market outlook - Management expressed excitement about the natural gas market and confirmed no plans to relocate equipment at this time [33][34] Question: International tool sales - Management reported positive performance in international tool sales and highlighted ongoing development of completion tools [36]
RPC(RES) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-04-24 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenues decreased by 1% to $333 million in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2024 [18] - EBITDA increased to $48.9 million from $46.1 million, with EBITDA margin rising by 100 basis points to 14.7% [22] - Diluted EPS remained flat at $0.06 [22] - Operating cash flow was $39.9 million, with free cash flow of $7.6 million after capital expenditures of $32.3 million [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Pressure pumping revenues accounted for 40.1% of total revenues, while downhole tools represented 28.2%, coiled tubing 9.6%, cementing 8.3%, and rental tools 4.6% [19] - Pressure pumping revenues were flat sequentially, while other service lines collectively declined by 1% [6][18] - Rental tools saw a notable gain of approximately 7% [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted challenges in demand and utilization for Tier two diesel equipment, with a highly competitive pricing environment in the spot and semi-dedicated frac market [7] - The acquisition of Pentel is expected to increase the company's concentration in the Permian Basin to approximately 60% of total revenues [16] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to bolster less capital-intensive service lines through organic investments and acquisitions to drive growth and reduce volatility [11] - The strategic rationale for the Pentel acquisition includes improving margins, optimizing assets, and increasing operational scale through M&A [14][15] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed concerns about macro uncertainties driven by tariffs, which could impact equipment prices and overall industry capital spending [27] - Despite the challenges, the company maintains a strong balance sheet and ample liquidity to navigate volatility and pursue opportunities [28] Other Important Information - The company has filed an S-3 registration statement with the SEC for the Rollins family control group shares, which is viewed as good corporate housekeeping [25] - Steve Lewis has been elected to the Board of Directors, while Gary Rollins and Pam Rollins have retired [29] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the current pricing conversations in the pressure pumping market? - Management noted that while each cycle is different, customers are responding to lower oil prices, leading to discussions that are somewhat similar to prior periods of market softness [37][38] Question: What are the capital allocation priorities following the Pentel acquisition? - The focus is on accretive transactions, exposure to larger customers, and service lines with good free cash flow potential [39][40] Question: What is the expected revenue contribution from the Pentel business? - Pentel generated approximately $400 million in revenue in 2024, with quarterly revenues around $100 million [41] Question: Are there shifts in customer activity towards lower CapEx projects? - Management indicated it is too early to determine any significant shifts but acknowledged that such trends have occurred in prior cycles [46] Question: What is the visibility on job timelines for fracking? - Visibility varies by customer type, with semi-dedicated customers providing several months of visibility, while spot market customers offer much less [48] Question: Is there an uptick in gas-directed activity? - Management believes any increase in gas-directed activity is likely further down the road, although there are some early signs [51] Question: What are the company's thoughts on older equipment being sold by competitors? - The company has seen opportunities but prefers not to invest in used equipment, focusing instead on reallocating assets within its service lines [58] Question: What would trigger an acceleration in capital expenditures? - Capital expenditures will be based on market conditions and the need to maintain equipment, with potential for increased spending if accretive opportunities arise [60][62] Question: Is the company focused on consolidating the Permian market or open to other basins? - Management is open to opportunities in other basins, not solely focused on the Permian, and is exploring various potential acquisitions [64][65]