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Profound(PROF) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-14 21:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q2 2025, the company received total orders of over $3 million and recorded revenue of $2.2 million, with $1.6 million from recurring revenue and $650,000 from one-time capital equipment sales [6][7] - Gross margin in Q2 2025 was 73%, up from 64% in Q2 2024 [6] - Total operating expenses in Q2 2025 were $15.4 million, compared to $9.3 million in Q2 2024 [6] - The net loss for Q2 2025 was $15.7 million, or $0.52 per share, compared to a net loss of $6.9 million, or $0.28 per share, in Q2 2024 [7] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is transitioning from a placement model to a capital model, which is expected to lead to a backend-loaded revenue operation [8][9] - The sales pipeline includes close to 500 prospects, with over 100 leads engaged and 80 qualified leads in the verification, negotiation, and contracting stages [10][11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. sales team has been streamlined to focus on organizational sales to corporatized hospitals, emphasizing the importance of intangible attributes like grit and perseverance in sales success [12][13] - The company aims to increase the number of active sites in the U.S., with a target of at least 75 by the end of the year [61] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The CAPTAIN trial has been fully recruited, which is expected to drive adoption of the TULSA procedure and influence treatment guidelines [15][16] - The pilot release of the new TULSA AI volume reduction software is anticipated to enhance efficiency in BPH procedures, moving TULSA from a niche to a mainstream treatment option [19][20] - The company is optimistic about the integration of TULSA with new interventional MR technologies, which could enhance its market position [63] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving 70% to 75% revenue growth in 2025 compared to 2024, despite short-term revenue shortfalls due to delays in capital sales [8][22] - Positive feedback from physicians regarding the CAPTAIN trial completion is expected to enhance adoption and pipeline growth [36][37] - The company anticipates that as more data is published, it will lead to new guidelines requiring that TULSA be presented as a treatment option alongside traditional methods [23] Other Important Information - The company has approximately $35.2 million in cash as of June 30, 2025 [7] - The initial clinical outcomes from the CAPTAIN trial are expected to be presented at major medical meetings in December [19][94] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide insights on the sales contribution from recurring and capital perspectives? - Management indicated that the revenue mix is expected to shift from recurring to capital revenue as the installed base grows, with a long-term goal of 70% recurring and 30% capital revenue [29][30] Question: What feedback are you receiving from physicians regarding the CAPTAIN trial? - High positive feedback has been received, particularly regarding the completion of the trial, which is seen as a significant achievement in the field [36][37] Question: How does the proposed reimbursement rule for BPH treatments affect TULSA? - The company maintained favorable reimbursement levels compared to other BPH procedures, which positions TULSA advantageously in the market [44][45] Question: What is the current number of active TULSA placements in the U.S.? - There are about 60 active sites, with plans to install three more, aiming for at least 75 by year-end [61] Question: How is the soft launch of the volume reduction module for BPH going? - Initial feedback has been excellent, with procedure times averaging closer to 60 minutes, which is a significant improvement [90][91]