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Primoris(PRIM) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-05 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company achieved record revenue of just under $1,900,000,000 for Q2, an increase of $327,000,000 or 20.9% from the prior year, driven by double-digit growth in both the Energy and Utility segments [19][20] - Gross profit for Q2 was $231,700,000, up $45,000,000 or 24.1% compared to the prior year, with gross margins improving to 12.3% from 11.9% [20][22] - Net income increased to $84,300,000 or $1.54 per fully diluted share, both up around 70% from the prior year [24] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In the Utility segment, revenues were up double digits from the prior year, with gross profit increasing to $97,500,000, up 52.3% [11][20] - The Energy segment saw revenue growth of $263,300,000 or 27% from the prior year, primarily driven by increased renewables activity [19][22] - Communications revenue and margins were also up double digits from the prior year, supported by growth in fiber to the home programs [12][20] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is evaluating nearly $1,700,000,000 of work related to data centers, with optimism about winning a fair share of this work [8][19] - There are between $20,000,000,000 and $30,000,000,000 of solar projects planned through 2028 that are on the company's sales radar [11] - The company expects a solid renewables bookings environment in the second half of the year and into 2026 [15][16] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to grow profitably through disciplined capital allocation and sees significant opportunities in power generation and electric utility needs [6][9] - The strategy to improve utility margins is showing results, with a focus on attracting and retaining talent to meet growing demand [14][29] - The company is committed to disciplined bidding and project execution while managing risk to expand margins and increase cash flow [30] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the demand backdrop, stating it is the best experienced as a company, with a strong portfolio of services to meet critical infrastructure needs [29] - The outlook for gas operations is trending more favorably than anticipated, with utilities opting for third-party service providers [12][21] - Management expects to see bookings accelerate in the remainder of the year into 2026, particularly in the renewables and energy sectors [26][27] Other Important Information - The company maintained strong liquidity of $690,000,000, including approximately $390,000,000 in cash [24][25] - Total backlog at the end of Q2 was just under $11,500,000,000, with MSA backlog up over $600,000,000 from Q1 [25][26] - The company updated its guidance for EPS to $4.4 to $4.6 per fully diluted share and adjusted EBITDA guidance to $490,000,000 to $510,000,000 for the full year 2025 [27] Q&A Session Summary Question: Is the expectation for a robust end to the year from an order perspective still valid? - Management confirmed that they are still predicting a back half loaded order book, with good bookings expected in Q3 and Q4 [32][34] Question: How much of the overall demand in the utility segment stems from MSA customers? - Most demand is driven by MSA work, particularly in gas and electric utilities, with improved margins expected to hold [37][38] Question: What are the big levers for the utility segment's bookings? - The growth in bookings was primarily MSA driven, with unexpected mid single-digit growth in gas and communications [51][52] Question: How much of the $2,500,000,000 in solar revenue was realized in the first half? - About $1,000,000,000 of the solar revenue was realized in the first half, with expectations for continued growth [43][44] Question: Can you quantify the closeout payments in the utility segment? - Closeout payments contributed about $6,000,000 of incremental gross profit during the quarter [48] Question: What are the capital allocation priorities moving forward? - The company continues to focus on working capital improvement, paying down debt, and looking for M&A opportunities [91][92]