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Algoma Steel (ASTL) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
ASTLAlgoma Steel (ASTL)2025-03-14 01:04

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of CAD 60.3 million for Q4 2024, with cash used in operating activities amounting to CAD 76.9 million [14] - Total shipments for Q4 2024 reached 549,000 tons, a 6.3% increase compared to the same quarter last year, while net sales realization averaged CAD 976 per ton, down from CAD 1,079 per ton in the prior year [15] - For the full year 2024, the company shipped 2 million net tons, down from 2.1 million net tons in the previous year, with net sales realizations averaging CAD 1,107 per ton, a decrease of 5.6% [18] - Steel revenue for Q4 2024 was CAD 536 million, a decline of 3.8% year-over-year, while the cost per ton of steel products sold averaged CAD 1,032, similar to the prior year [16][19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Plate shipments for Q4 2024 reached approximately 82,000 tons, up from 73,000 tons in Q3 2024, with expectations for Q1 2025 plate production to be directionally higher [5] - The company is dynamically adjusting its product mix between plate and coil products based on market conditions and contractual obligations, focusing on higher-margin products [6] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted that the Canadian market is currently oversupplied with coil and undersupplied with plate, which may lead to price increases for plate products [37] - The implementation of tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum imports has introduced uncertainty into the North American steel market, but the company expects a rational dialogue to restore normal trade [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on completing its electric arc furnace (EAF) project, with first steel production expected in April 2025, which is anticipated to enhance operational efficiency and cost structure [8][25] - The transition to EAF steelmaking is seen as a long-term strategy to strengthen the company's position in the market and improve its ability to navigate uncertainties [11][25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management highlighted the challenging market conditions due to tariff uncertainty, soft demand, and other macroeconomic factors affecting customer behavior [4] - Despite these challenges, the company remains optimistic about the upcoming EAF operations and the potential for increased production and market share in the plate segment [25][72] Other Important Information - The cumulative investment for the EAF project was CAD 740 million as of December 31, 2024, with expectations to complete the project within 5% of the upper budget range [10] - The company expects to release approximately CAD 100 million of working capital from March 2024 to March 2025 [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on the Blast Furnace outage duration and costs - The outage lasted a couple of days to a week due to extreme weather conditions, with no significant costs involved [31][32] Question: Impact of tariffs on EBITDA generation - The company indicated that with current pricing, it could break even or generate a small profit despite the 25% tariff on shipments to the US [34][35] Question: Canadian sheet prices and potential oversupply - The Canadian market is currently oversupplied with coil and undersupplied with plate, which may lead to price increases for plate products [37] Question: Mitigation strategies in response to tariffs - The company is focused on cost reduction initiatives and transitioning to EAF production as a primary strategy to lower costs [45][46] Question: Expected insurance payout and timing - The company expects around CAD 100 million from insurance, with CAD 20 to CAD 25 million anticipated in the next month [52][54] Question: Volume expectations for 2025 - The company anticipates total shipments for the year to be between 2.1 million to 2.2 million tons, with a focus on increasing plate production [98]