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South Bow Corporation(SOBO) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - South Bow generated normalized EBITDA of $1.09 billion and distributable cash flow of $608 million in 2024 [13] - The company expects to generate normalized EBITDA of $1.01 billion in 2025, reflecting a range of 3% [15] - The net debt to normalized EBITDA ratio is forecasted to be approximately 4.8% by the end of 2025 [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - 90% of normalized EBITDA is secured through committed arrangements, minimizing commodity price or volumetric risk [14] - The marketing segment is expected to see a reduction of approximately $30 million year-over-year due to reduced activity and certain unwinds of positions [99] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - There is significant demand for uncommitted capacity on Keystone and continued strength in demand for capacity on the U.S. Gulf Coast segment [14] - The company has observed extreme demand in the Gulf Coast for heavy barrels out of Canada, indicating strong supply and demand fundamentals [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - South Bow aims to leverage existing infrastructure to deliver high returns for shareholders, with a focus on capital allocation priorities and risk management [10] - The company is committed to maintaining a sustainable dividend while strengthening its investment-grade financial position [10][17] - Future growth will be pursued within risk preferences, with a focus on optimizing existing corridors and enhancing contracted strategies [12][55] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the company's strong financial position entering 2025 and the ability to meet near-term deleveraging targets [16] - The ongoing uncertainty around tariffs may create headwinds for uncommitted capacity, but the company believes it can manage risks within its guidance [29] Other Important Information - The company received approval from PHMSA to lift pressure restrictions on a segment of the Keystone system, which is expected to improve operational efficiency [96] - The variable toll complaint process is ongoing, with decisions awaited from both Canadian and U.S. regulatory bodies [78] Q&A Session Summary Question: Discussion on open season and interest levels - Management noted that Western Canadian sedimentary basin has been egress constrained for years, but there is encouragement from both supply and demand fundamentals [22][24] Question: Changes in long-term debt-to-EBITDA target - Management confirmed a focus on deleveraging to reach a target of four times by 2028, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a strong balance sheet [26] Question: Guidance on tariffs and downside risks - Management indicated that 90% of EBITDA is contracted, allowing for stability despite market uncertainties, and they believe they can manage risks within a 3% range [28][29] Question: Future growth opportunities and recapitalized optionality - Management highlighted the importance of leveraging existing infrastructure and optimizing capital investments to support growth [39][40] Question: Marketing strategy and market conditions - Management is shifting towards a more contracted marketing strategy to mitigate volatility and improve shareholder value [71][106] Question: PHMSA approval impact on capacity - Management stated that the approval will enhance operational efficiency but did not provide specific throughput increases at this time [97] Question: Long-term EBITDA growth outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving a 2% to 3% growth rate, driven by increased delivery points and capturing additional volumes [87][106]