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TransAlta (TAC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
TransAlta TransAlta (US:TAC)2025-08-01 16:00

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - TransAlta reported adjusted EBITDA of CAD 349 million for Q2 2025, an increase of CAD 33 million compared to the same period in 2024, driven by favorable ancillary service pricing and asset optimization [11][12] - Free cash flow for the quarter was CAD 177 million, consistent with the same period last year [13] - Average fleet availability was 91.6% [6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Hydro segment adjusted EBITDA increased to CAD 126 million from CAD 83 million year-over-year, attributed to higher intercompany sales and emissions credits [11] - Wind and solar segment adjusted EBITDA remained stable at CAD 89 million, impacted by lower tax attributes revenue from Oklahoma assets [12] - Gas segment adjusted EBITDA decreased to CAD 128 million from CAD 142 million, primarily due to lower realized power prices and higher carbon and natural gas pricing [12] - Energy Transition segment adjusted EBITDA rose to CAD 19 million, a CAD 17 million increase year-over-year [12] - Energy Marketing adjusted EBITDA decreased by CAD 13 million to CAD 26 million due to subdued market volatility [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Alberta's spot price averaged CAD 40 per megawatt hour in Q2 2025, down from CAD 45 per megawatt hour in 2024 [13] - The hydro fleet achieved an average realized merchant price of CAD 82 per megawatt hour, a 105% premium to the average spot price [14] - The gas fleet realized a 55% premium to the average spot price [14] - Ancillary service pricing settled at CAD 42 per megawatt hour, a 5% premium to the average spot price [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maximize the value of its legacy thermal energy campuses and capture opportunities in securing data center customers [17] - TransAlta is focused on maintaining financial strength and flexibility while pursuing strategic M&A opportunities [18] - The company is committed to achieving its 2026 CO2 emissions reduction target and enhancing its diversified portfolio [19] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in meeting 2025 guidance ranges and highlighted the positive momentum in securing data center opportunities in Alberta [11][17] - The company is optimistic about the development of a data center industry in Alberta, which is expected to rebalance the current oversupply of generation [10][36] - Management acknowledged the importance of clarity from the ISO regarding future phases of data center development [52] Other Important Information - TransAlta successfully recontracted its Melancon and Wolf Island wind facilities, extending contract dates to 2031 and 2034 respectively [6][7] - The company is actively engaged in commercial negotiations for its Centralia site and expects to share detailed development plans soon [10] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the gating factors to successfully execute an MOU for data centers? - Management indicated that there are no significant impediments, but finalizing terms takes time [22][24] Question: How is the organization viewing midlife natural gas M&A opportunities? - Management confirmed that it is an increasing focus, with several opportunities being explored in core markets [26][27] Question: Has the timeline for securing an MOU changed since the Q1 call? - Management acknowledged that while there has been progress, the timeline has evolved due to clarity from the ISO [32][34] Question: Can Alberta deliver power to gigawatt scale data centers? - Management expressed confidence in Alberta's ability to support a vibrant data center industry, which would benefit their diverse fleet [36] Question: How is the carbon credit portfolio being managed? - Management emphasized the value of their environmental attributes and their role in ensuring competitiveness and meeting customer needs [56]