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Upstart(UPST) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total revenue for Q2 was approximately $257 million, up 102% year-on-year, including fee revenue of approximately $241 million, which was up 84% year-on-year [28][30] - GAAP net income for Q2 was approximately positive $6 million, ahead of expectations, marking a return to profitability a quarter earlier than anticipated [31] - Adjusted EBITDA was $53 million, reflecting strong operating leverage [31] - Average loan size was approximately $7,570, which was 15% lower than the prior quarter due to model advancements driving higher approval rates for smaller loan amounts [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Originations on the Upstart platform in Q2 reached $2.8 billion, the highest volume in three years [9] - The auto business grew 87% sequentially, while the home business grew 67% sequentially [9] - More than 10% of originations came from newer businesses, including small dollar loans, which grew 40% sequentially [9][12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Upstart Macro Index has been largely stable for several months, indicating no significant macro improvements or Fed rate decreases impacting growth [10] - The volume of loan transactions across the platform was approximately 373,000, up 159% from the prior year [29] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims for market share leadership in home and auto lending, with significant investments in these areas expected to yield fast growth and strong credit performance [17] - The strategy includes transitioning most funding for newer products off the balance sheet by 2025 [12][33] - The company is focused on creating a differentiated experience in home and auto lending, leveraging AI to reduce origination costs and improve consumer experience [72] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the ongoing growth of the core personal loan business, despite the scaling of new products [27] - The macro environment is expected to remain steady, with no significant changes anticipated in interest rates or labor market conditions [34] - The company plans to continue launching model enhancements to improve conversion rates and maintain robust take rates and contribution margins [34] Other Important Information - The company has made significant advancements in AI technology, with Model 22 improving separation accuracy by 17 percentage points [18] - Year-over-year population-adjusted delinquency rates are down 20%, and raw delinquency rates are down 32% due to servicing optimizations [20] Q&A Session Summary Question: Discussion on ABS market and competitive pressure - Management noted that the ABS market is constructive, but the equity tranche market is opportunistic with buyers picking and choosing deals [39] - Increased competition is expected as funding markets improve, but the company remains focused on maintaining strong offers and growing market share [40] Question: Transition to external funding and balance sheet impact - Management indicated a timeline for transitioning to external funding between now and the end of the year, with expectations for the balance sheet to start releasing as new flows are secured [44] Question: Contribution margin improvement - The contribution margin improved due to a mix benefit from more core borrower segment loans and improved take rates driven by model enhancements [52] Question: Macro assumptions and guidance - Management expects a steady macro environment with no significant changes in interest rates or default rates, planning conservatively for the remainder of the year [55] Question: Average loan size and strategic shifts - The decrease in average loan size is strategic, reflecting rapid growth in the small dollar product, which is intended to increase the number of users on the platform [67] Question: Funding partners for new products - The company plans to secure a combination of bank and credit union partners for home and auto products, leveraging their familiarity with these offerings [77] Question: Conversion rate improvement and Walmart partnership - Management did not provide specific forecasts for conversion rates but noted that the Walmart partnership continues to be successful [82]