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PENN(PENN) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q2 2025, the company reported retail revenue of $1.4 billion and adjusted EBITDAR of $490 million, with adjusted EBITDAR margins of nearly 34% [5][6] - Year-over-year revenue growth of 4% was noted in markets not impacted by new supply [5][6] - The interactive segment generated adjusted revenues of $178 million, with an adjusted EBITDA loss of $62 million [15][18] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The interactive segment achieved record quarterly gaming revenue in both OSB and iCasino, driven by higher holds and continued momentum on standalone iCasino [10][15] - Year-to-date increases in retail theoretical play were 19% in Pennsylvania and 28% in Michigan, while online theoretical play saw increases of 133% in Pennsylvania and 242% in Michigan [10][15] - The average monthly active users (MAUs) in the interactive segment stabilized and increased year-over-year in Q2 2025 [12][15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is responding to new supply impacts in key markets, including relocations of Hollywood casinos in Aurora and Joliet to better locations [6][7] - The ongoing construction in Detroit is expected to boost visitation and spending at the Hollywood Greektown Casino [8] - The company anticipates a U.S. OSB handle market share of 3.4% in Q3 and 4% in Q4, with iCasino GGR share expected at 3% in Q3 and 3.2% in Q4 [19][21] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to enhance guest experiences through property improvements and new non-gaming amenities [7][8] - The opening of the Hollywood Casino Joliet is expected to enhance the portfolio and grow free cash flow [9][25] - The company is focused on operational execution and transforming strategic investments into long-term returns and value creation for shareholders [27][28] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that strong employment levels and low gas prices are beneficial tailwinds for the business [36][37] - The company expects to see sequential quarter-over-quarter adjusted EBITDA improvement in the interactive segment for Q3 and Q4 [17][18] - Management remains optimistic about the upcoming football season and the integration of new product features with ESPN [26][70] Other Important Information - The company ended Q2 with total liquidity of $1.2 billion, including $672 million in cash and cash equivalents [16] - Share repurchases totaled $90 million in Q2, with a target of at least $350 million for the year [16][17] - The company does not expect to be a cash taxpayer in 2025, benefiting free cash flow before project CapEx by 40% [23][24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on ESPN's potential upside with new DTC products and NFL deal - Management believes these developments will solidify ESPN's position and enhance the ESPN Bet ecosystem [30][32] Question: Retail top-line trends and sustainability - Management attributes strong trends to less new supply and stable employment, which correlates with consumer spending [34][36] Question: Hold percentage in the second quarter - Management reported a hold percentage of 9.8%, indicating improvement and a focus on increasing top-of-funnel engagement [46][48] Question: Interactive segment guidance and promotional plans - Management aims for a realistic approach to guidance, incorporating new launches and tax increases while focusing on market share growth [53][55] Question: Expectations for ESPN Bet in 2026 - Management is focused on achieving profitability in 2026, contingent on meeting targets and improving market share [59][62] Question: Retail project returns and excitement - Management expressed confidence in all four projects, highlighting their strategic locations and expected returns [85][88] Question: Changes in strategy for the upcoming NFL season - Management emphasized eliminating friction in user experience and enhancing product offerings as key strategies for improvement [91][93]