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Deutsche Bank AG(DB) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
Deutsche Bank AGDeutsche Bank AG(US:DB)2025-10-30 15:02

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Record profitability was achieved in the first nine months of 2025, with revenues at €24.4 billion, aligning with the full-year goal of around €32 billion before FX effects [3] - Post-tax return on tangible equity reached 10.9%, meeting the target of above 10%, while the cost-income ratio stood at 63%, consistent with the target of below 65% [3] - Pre-provision profit increased to €9 billion, up nearly 50% year on year, or nearly 30% when adjusted for Postbank litigation impacts [3][4] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net commission and fee income rose by 5% year on year, while net interest income across key banking segments remained stable [4] - The Corporate Bank delivered strong fee growth of 5% and was recognized as the best trade finance bank [6] - The Private Bank saw profits increase by 71%, and assets under management grew by €40 billion year to date with net inflows of €25 billion [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Loans grew by €3 billion adjusted for FX effects during the third quarter, with strong underlying quality [9] - Deposit growth was pronounced in the Private Bank, with an increase of €10 billion during the third quarter [10][11] - The liquidity coverage ratio was managed to 140% at quarter end, demonstrating the strength of the balance sheet [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is on track to meet or exceed all 2025 strategy goals, with a compound annual revenue growth rate since 2021 of 6% [5] - Operational efficiencies of €2.4 billion have been delivered or are expected, achieving 95% of the €2.5 billion goal [5] - A second share buyback program of €250 million was launched, bringing cumulative distributions since 2022 to €5.6 billion [5] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management anticipates lower provisioning levels in the second half of the year despite uncertainties in the commercial real estate sector [17] - The company expects lending in the core bank to benefit from fiscal stimulus in Germany, with a strong outlook in FICC [10] - Geopolitical risks are continuously monitored, with stress testing for potential events being an ongoing focus [24] Other Important Information - The CET1 ratio increased to 14.5%, with a surplus above regulatory requirements [12][14] - The company has reached the lower end of its full-year issuance guidance with €15.1 billion issued year-to-date [16] Q&A Session Summary Question: Future Return on Tangible Equity - Management believes that a 10% return on tangible equity could be a reasonable floor for future performance, indicating structural profitability has improved [20][22] Question: Private Credit and Commercial Real Estate Exposures - Management noted that private credit is not a concern, while commercial real estate remains a watch item, particularly in California and Washington State [20][24] Question: Receivables Financing Exposure - The company has some exposure in trade finance and supply chain financing, but it is not considered significant [27][29] Question: Sustainability Competitive Disadvantage - Management does not view the sustainability landscape in Europe as a competitive disadvantage, highlighting progress in their sustainability agenda [27][30] Question: Tier 2 Capital Stack - The company maintains a Tier 2 deficit offset by a surplus in AT1, with no immediate changes expected in the capital stack approach [27][32] Question: Commercial Real Estate Issues - Concentration of credit loss provisions has been primarily in West Coast exposures, with ongoing efforts to manage and restructure troubled loans [34][36] Question: Off-Balance Sheet Positions - Off-balance sheet positions primarily consist of derivatives and committed facilities, with a significant bias towards stages one and two [34][39]