Energy Transfer(ET) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
Energy TransferEnergy Transfer(US:ET)2025-11-05 22:30

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 2025 was $3.84 billion, down from $3.96 billion in Q3 2024, indicating a flat year-over-year performance when excluding non-recurring items [3][4] - Year-to-date adjusted EBITDA reached $11.8 billion, slightly up from $11.6 billion for the same period in 2024 [4] - Distributable cash flow (DCF) attributable to partners was approximately $1.9 billion for the first nine months of 2025 [4] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - NGL and refined products segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $1.1 billion from $1 billion in Q3 2024, driven by higher throughput [4] - Midstream segment adjusted EBITDA decreased to $751 million from $816 million in Q3 2024, impacted by a one-time business interruption claim in the previous year [5] - Crude oil segment adjusted EBITDA was $746 million, down from $768 million in Q3 2024, affected by lower transportation revenues on certain pipelines [5][6] - Interstate natural gas segment adjusted EBITDA was $431 million, down from $460 million in Q3 2024, but included a $43 million increase from a tax resolution [6] - Intrastate natural gas segment adjusted EBITDA decreased to $230 million from $329 million in Q3 2024, despite increased volumes [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported strong volumes through natural gas interstate and intrastate pipelines, with significant demand expected to support growth in gas-fired power plants and data centers [8][10] - The Desert Southwest Pipeline project is fully contracted under long-term commitments, indicating strong market demand [9] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to spend approximately $4.6 billion on organic growth capital projects in 2025, down from a previous estimate of $5 billion [7] - Future growth capital is expected to be around $5 billion in 2026, primarily focused on natural gas segments [7] - The company is expanding its NGL business and crude oil pipeline network to meet growing international demand [25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the company's position to meet future energy demand growth, leveraging strong relationships to develop new projects [24] - The company is focused on capital discipline and ensuring projects meet risk-return criteria before proceeding [23][59] - Management highlighted the importance of securing long-term contracts and partnerships to support growth initiatives [26][28] Other Important Information - The company is actively engaging with stakeholders for the Desert Southwest Pipeline project, which is expected to enhance system reliability and market access [9][10] - The Hugh Brinson Pipeline is anticipated to provide significant optionality and connect shippers to a vast natural gas pipeline network [11] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on guidance for the year - Management clarified that the guidance does not include the acquisition of Parkland and expects to be slightly below the initial guidance without it [26] Question: Details on Lake Charles LNG project - Management indicated that they are focused on securing contracts and equity partners before proceeding to FID, emphasizing financial discipline [27][28][59] Question: Financial impact of recent data center deals - Management expressed excitement about the data center deals, noting significant potential revenue and growth opportunities [30][32][34] Question: Consideration of converting NGL pipelines to natural gas service - Management is evaluating the conversion of underutilized NGL pipelines to natural gas service, citing potential for higher revenue [38][40][41] Question: Growth backlog and capital expenditure outlook - Management stated that they have a strong backlog of high-return projects and will update capital expenditure guidance as needed [47][48] Question: Expansion of Desert Southwest Pipeline - Management confirmed ongoing interest in upsizing the pipeline and is evaluating options for increased capacity [49][50]