American Financial (AFG) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported core net operating earnings of $2.69 per share, a 16% increase from $2.31 per share in the prior year period [7] - The annualized core operating return on equity for the third quarter was 19% [4] - Net investment income increased by 5% year-over-year, attributed to higher interest rates and increased balances of invested assets [7][8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Underwriting profit in specialty property and casualty insurance businesses grew 19%, with a combined ratio of 93, improving by 1.3 points from the prior year [15] - Gross and net written premiums in specialty property and casualty businesses decreased by 2% and 4% respectively compared to the previous year [15] - In the specialty financial group, the combined ratio was 81.1, which is 11.2 percentage points better than the comparable period in 2024 [22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Average renewal pricing across the property and casualty group increased by approximately 5% in the third quarter [15] - The property and transportation group achieved a combined ratio of 94.1, improving by 2.7 points from the comparable 2024 period [16] - The specialty casualty group reported a combined ratio of 95.8, which is 3.7 percentage points higher than the 92.1 reported in the comparable period in 2024 [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain a disciplined underwriting approach while seeking growth opportunities in specialty property and casualty businesses [12] - There is a focus on evaluating acquisitions and maintaining a pipeline of startups that could become new business units [13] - The company expects to generate significant excess capital throughout 2025 and into 2026, allowing for potential acquisitions, special dividends, or share repurchases [10] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism regarding the recovery in multifamily investments and expects higher rental and occupancy rates by the end of 2026 [9] - The company anticipates premium growth to rebound in 2026, driven by startups and underwriting actions taken in specialty casualty businesses [14] - Management noted that while some loss ratio trends have improved, others, particularly in social inflation-exposed businesses, remain stable [30] Other Important Information - The company returned $66 million to shareholders through regular quarterly dividends and announced a special dividend of $2 per share [10] - The company has declared $54 per share or $4.6 billion in special dividends since the beginning of 2021 [10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Why were there no buybacks in the quarter? - Management indicated that they become active in buybacks when the stock is trading at a significant discount to its value and have retained capital for future opportunities [25] Question: Can you elaborate on pricing trends in the P&C side? - Management stated that a 5% price increase is still exceeding prospective loss ratio trends, with a diverse portfolio mitigating risks [28] Question: What is the outlook for crop premium and pricing? - Management suggested that trade aspects are reflected in futures prices, leading to stable or potentially increasing premiums for crops [39] Question: Is there an impact from new participating insurance companies on crop premiums? - Management believes the impact is marginal, with new entrants likely taking on less desirable business [47]