Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3, adjusted EBITDA was CAD 2 million, representing an 11.6% margin, with total cash investments ending the quarter at CAD 46 million, providing flexibility for growth [4][19] - Total adjusted revenue grew 2% year-over-year to CAD 17 million, with wealth revenue rising 27% and payments revenue increasing 11% [17][18] - Interest revenue decreased by 5% in the quarter due to a new rate cap, although it showed slight sequential growth [18] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Assets under management (AUM) reached a record CAD 498 million, up 22% year-over-year, driven by deeper adoption of managed portfolios [4][17] - Payments processing volume grew 12% year-over-year to CAD 2.8 billion, reflecting steady international demand [14][17] - Bitcoin holdings increased over 300% quarter-over-quarter, reaching CAD 4.7 million [15][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total members in Canada reached 2.3 million, up 6% [17] - The composition of revenue growth is shifting towards higher quality recurring streams, with adjusted subscription services revenue growing by 7% [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transitioning to a unified intelligent investing platform, combining managed and self-directed investing under one brand [5][6] - The strategy focuses on building a behavioral operating system for wealth that emphasizes discipline and long-term investing [8][9] - The company aims to grow its recurring revenue base while maintaining profitability and capital allocation focused on Bitcoin and hard asset value creation [20] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the rollout of the intelligent investing platform, expecting it to drive growth while maintaining EBITDA positivity [32][36] - The company reaffirmed its 2025 revenue guidance and raised its adjusted EBITDA outlook from CAD 5-6 million to CAD 6-7 million for the full year [19][20] - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by the current regulatory environment but is progressing towards offering crypto trading [44] Other Important Information - The company is sunsetting its legacy apps, MOCA and MogoTrade, as it fully transitions to the intelligent investing platform [6] - The intelligent investing platform includes features designed to enhance investor discipline and performance, such as a performance dashboard and a buy-gate investment memo [24][25] Q&A Session Summary Question: How does the company balance growth and margins? - Management stated the philosophy is to stay EBITDA positive while driving top-line growth, expecting offsetting growth from the rollout of intelligent investing [32] Question: What are the logistics for rolling out intelligent investing? - The rollout will start with the managed solution, transitioning existing users to the new platform, with plans to introduce the self-directed option subsequently [34][36] Question: How does the lending business fit with core wealth and payments? - Management indicated that while lending is not the primary growth focus, it remains a stable cash flow generator and will continue to contribute to overall business cash flow [39][40] Question: Update on regulatory process for crypto trading? - Management confirmed progress on the crypto path and partnership discussions, with announcements expected in 2026 [44]
Mogo(MOGO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript