Leslie's(LESL) - 2025 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales for Q4 were $389.2 million, a decline of 2.2% from $397.9 million in the same quarter last year [26] - Same-store sales decreased by 6.8% on a 13-week basis compared to the same period in fiscal year 2024 [27] - Gross margin for Q4 increased to 38.6% from 36% in the prior year, driven by favorable vendor rebates and freight costs [29] - Net loss for Q4 was $162.8 million, or $17.54 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $9.9 million, or $1.07 per diluted share in the same quarter last year [30] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q4 increased to $45.2 million from $43 million in Q4 2024 [31] - Full year 2025 sales were approximately $1.24 billion, down from $1.33 billion in 2024 [31] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Chemicals sales were down approximately 7.1%, and equipment sales were down 7.6% on a 13-week comparable basis [27] - The company experienced a net loss of over 160,000 residential customers, with a decline in residential traffic of 8.6% in 2025 [6][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company noted a competitive pricing environment in Q4, which affected sales performance [80] - The company is focusing on improving its price-value perception to regain market share lost due to pricing challenges [6][10] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is implementing immediate actions to improve operations and accelerate financial profitability, including closing 80-90 underperforming stores [7][17] - A restructuring of field teams is underway to enhance customer relationships and drive growth [11] - The company is focusing on a customer-centric approach, enhancing its value proposition through targeted marketing and pricing strategies [12][44] - Plans to optimize inventory and reduce SKU counts by over 2,000 are in place to improve operational efficiency [20][37] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the challenging macroeconomic environment and its impact on consumer spending, but expressed confidence in the company's strategic direction [38] - The company expects to generate the majority of its sales and earnings in the second half of the year, consistent with the seasonal nature of the industry [39] - Guidance for fiscal 2026 includes expected sales of $1.1 billion to $1.25 billion and adjusted EBITDA of $55 million to $75 million [39] Other Important Information - The company ended the fiscal year with no outstanding borrowings on its line of credit and $752 million of net long-term debt [32] - A $184 million impairment charge was recorded in Q4, primarily related to goodwill and the closure of underperforming stores [30] Q&A Session Summary Question: Are supplier partners supporting the turnaround efforts? - Management confirmed that vendor partners have been supportive, allowing for better inventory forecasts and improved in-stock positions [49][51] Question: What is the expected free cash flow conversion for this year? - The midpoint of the guidance assumes free cash flow positivity for the year [52] Question: Where do the most pricing opportunities lie? - The focus is on key value items, particularly in the chemicals category, with a strategy to remain competitive against other retailers [60] Question: What is the impact of store closures on revenue? - The closures are expected to impact annual sales by approximately $25-$35 million, but the majority of the stores being closed were unprofitable [70][72] Question: How does the company plan to regain lost customers? - Targeted marketing efforts will be employed to reach former customers, leveraging data from the Pool Perks Loyalty Program [74][76] Question: What are the competitive dynamics observed in Q4? - Management noted aggressive pricing in the marketplace and the need to remain competitive, which has led to sequential improvements in performance [80]