Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q4 2025, the company reported investment income of $5.9 million, or $0.86 per share, an increase from $5.4 million in the previous quarter [15] - Total expenses for the quarter were $2.5 million, or $0.37 per share, compared to $0.35 in the prior quarter [15] - Net investment income rose to $3.4 million, or $0.49 per share, up from $3 million, or $0.44 per share in Q3 [15] - The net loss for the quarter was $12.4 million, or $1.81 per share [16] - Total assets as of December 31, 2025, were $141.3 million, with total net assets of $98.6 million, resulting in a net asset value per share of $14.42, down from $16.89 as of September 30 [16][21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The portfolio generated strong recurring cash flows totaling $9.8 million, or $1.44 per share, exceeding distributions and expenses by $0.41 per share, an increase from $8.7 million, or $1.28 per share in the prior quarter [16] - The weighted average gap yield of the portfolio decreased slightly to 12.99% at quarter end, compared to 13.07% as of September 30 [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The CLO equity market faced significant challenges in 2025, with industry returns estimated at -10% for the year [9] - The primary pressure on performance came from a substantial tightening of spreads in the underlying loans inside CLOs, approximately 34 basis points in the U.S. loan market [9] - The company observed a gradual slowing down in loan repricing prepayment speeds, with the ratio of CLO loan portfolios pricing above par decreasing from over 50% to about 30% [32] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company remains optimistic about CLOs, viewing them as attractive investment opportunities compared to other asset classes, with a focus on disciplined portfolio management and opportunistic investments [6][7] - The company plans to utilize its data-driven approach to CLO equity investing to grow its portfolio thoughtfully [6] - The company aims to manage exposure to individual credits or sectoral weaknesses through its diversified portfolio, which consists of CLOs with reinvestment periods ending in 2026 and later [8][14] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management highlighted a resilient macro environment with inflation reducing to central bank targets and a low leveraged loan default rate, indicating continued opportunities for CLO equity investing [7] - The company expects M&A activity to increase marginally and anticipates that the pressure from tightening loan spreads will reduce in the coming quarters [26][27] - Management expressed cautious optimism regarding an improving backdrop for the asset class, with expectations of less spread compression in 2026 compared to 2025 [10][11] Other Important Information - The company executed share issuances through its at-the-market equity issuance program, issuing 30,680 shares for net proceeds of approximately $0.5 million during the quarter [17] - Dividends of $0.22 per common share were distributed in October, November, December, and January, with plans for similar distributions in the following months [18] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you comment on the investment environment in the primary versus secondary market? - Management noted opportunities in both markets but indicated a current overweight in the secondary market [24] Question: What are the refinancing and reset opportunities in your portfolio over the next few quarters? - Management mentioned multiple positions exiting their non-call periods, expecting upside in a tightening CLO liability spread environment [25] Question: Can you comment on the supply of new loans expected in 2026? - Management expects M&A activity to increase and anticipates a reduction in pressure from tightening loan spreads in the coming quarters [26][27] Question: Is the slowing loan repricing momentum specific to your portfolio or a larger market dynamic? - Management indicated it is both a larger market dynamic and observable in their portfolio, with a gradual slowing in loan repricing speeds [30][32] Question: How does the company view the ATM share issuance relative to the stock's trading position? - Management stated they continue to utilize the ATM when trading at a premium, noting the stock was trading at NAV [34]
PEARL DIVER CREDIT COMPANY INC.(PDCC) - 2025 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript