Travel + Leisure (NYSE:TNL) FY 2025 Conference December 03, 2025 01:30 PM ET Company ParticipantsErik Hoag - CFOConference Call ParticipantsBrandt Montour - Director, Equity Research AnalystNone - AnalystBrandt MontourHello, everybody. Hope you guys had a good lunch. We're here with Erik Hug from Travel + Leisure, the Chief Financial Officer. Erik, maybe we'll start with a very brief overview of the business, and you can kind of take that right into an overview of how the timeshare consumer feels as near-te ...

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For FY 2025, Travel + Leisure generated approximately $4 billion in revenue, with EBITDA just under $1 billion, reflecting a revenue growth of about 4% and EBITDA growth of roughly 6% year-to-date [2][3] - Earnings per share (EPS) increased by 14%, and free cash flow per share rose by over 20% [3] - The company raised its guidance for gross vacation ownership interest sales, volume per guest, adjusted EBITDA, and modestly increased the outlook for free cash flow [3] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The vacation ownership segment constitutes about three-quarters of the company, characterized by predictable revenue and strong cash flows [2] - The travel and membership segment, making up roughly a quarter of the company, has a member base of about 3 million, with high recurring revenue from multi-year contracts [2] - Approximately two-thirds of transactions come from existing owners, indicating strong repeat business [6][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The consumer base for Travel + Leisure is stable, with new owners averaging in their early 50s and a household income of around $120,000 [6] - There are no significant fluctuations noted across different geographical markets [7] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company plans to focus on upgrading existing owners and attracting new owners, with a long-term target mix of 35% new owners and 65% existing owners [10] - New brands such as Sports Illustrated and Eddie Bauer are being introduced, alongside continued growth in existing brands like Margaritaville and Accor Vacation Club [13][25] - The company is also looking to improve its consumer finance portfolio and expects a modest pickup in spreads as interest rates decline [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the durability of the consumer base and the ability to drive demand through direct marketing strategies [11][12] - The loan loss provision is expected to decrease in 2026 compared to 2025, with a target of settling at or below 20% [14][17] - The company is focused on capital allocation, balancing investments in growth with shareholder returns through dividends and share buybacks [55] Other Important Information - The company is currently operating at a leverage ratio of approximately 3.3, with a target of reducing it to around 2.25 to 3 over time [47] - The optimal inventory level is between two to three years, but the current inventory stands at four to five years due to new brand requirements and inventory recycling initiatives [48][49] Q&A Session Summary Question: How is the consumer sentiment in the travel and leisure sector? - Management noted that the consumer remains strong, with consistent trends in key performance indicators such as booking windows and arrivals [4][6] Question: What is the outlook for new brands like Sports Illustrated and Eddie Bauer? - The focus for 2026 will be on scaling these brands, with expectations for growth but not immediate inclusion in financial modeling [25][30] Question: How does the company view the competitive landscape and potential M&A opportunities? - The company is aware of the narrowed universe of potential acquisition targets in the timeshare space and is focused on driving shareholder returns through internal investments and capital allocation [44][45] Question: What is the company's approach to capital allocation? - The company maintains a disciplined approach to capital allocation, with a commitment to dividends and share buybacks while investing for growth [55]