The government shutdown leading to air travel disruptions. More than 8,000 flights were delayed across the country yesterday. Air traffic control staffing issues were reported at 22 locations over the weekend. Joining us right now to discuss it is former FAA administrator Randy Babbot. And Randy, um, how dire is the situation at this point? Are Americans who are flying less safe? >> Yeah, it uh, it's a tough situation. And the worst part is it's uh self- accelerating. Uh the more we ask people to serve more ...