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Varonis Systems (NasdaqGS:VRNS) FY Conference Transcript
2025-12-10 20:02
Varonis Systems FY Conference Summary Company Overview - **Company**: Varonis Systems (NasdaqGS: VRNS) - **Event**: FY Conference held on December 10, 2025 Key Points Business Segmentation - Varonis is transitioning into two distinct business segments: SaaS and on-premises subscription [7][8] - The SaaS business is performing well with a 76% SaaS of ARR, while the on-prem subscription business is underperforming with lower-than-expected renewal rates [9][12] Renewal Rates and Churn - The renewal rates for the on-prem subscription business were below expectations, contributing to overall performance concerns [8][13] - Three main factors contributed to the lower renewal rates: 1. Many customers were single-threaded, using Varonis for specific use cases without a broader cybersecurity need [15] 2. Sales team performance issues in presenting quotes effectively [16] 3. Increased deal scrutiny towards the end of the quarter [17] - The federal business also underperformed due to factors like the timing of FedRAMP certification and sales team handling [19][21] Customer Engagement and Market Dynamics - Customers who did not renew were often not using Varonis as a security tool, indicating a need for better engagement with security teams [28][30] - Despite competitive noise in the DSPM market, Varonis did not see a change in competitive win rates, maintaining strong sales execution [34][58] Future Guidance and Strategy - Varonis plans to focus on SaaS growth rates and expects to grow at 20% or more for the foreseeable future [49] - The company aims to complete the transition to 100% SaaS by the end of 2026, with no remaining non-SaaS ARR [96] Profitability and Cost Structure - The company is targeting an ARR contribution margin of 18%-22% by the end of 2027, with expectations of a quick recovery in margins post-transition [91][95] - The shift to SaaS is expected to reduce support costs and improve overall profitability [93] Competitive Landscape - Varonis is enhancing its integration with Microsoft Purview, positioning itself as a complementary solution rather than a competitor [75][76] - The company is entering new markets such as database activity monitoring through acquisitions, aiming to displace legacy tools [78][80] Sales Strategy Adjustments - Changes in sales compensation plans are being considered to refocus efforts on new customer acquisition rather than conversions [63][68] - The emphasis will be on selling to new customers and upselling to existing SaaS customers [69] Additional Insights - The transition to SaaS is seen as critical for long-term growth and investor confidence, with a clear strategy to phase out on-prem offerings [96] - The company is actively engaging with customers to understand their plans for transitioning to SaaS, with a focus on minimizing churn [46][48]