the policy toward tariffs was was changed um with liberation day- during our administration. We used tariffs and the threat of tariffs principally focused on China um to leverage changes in behavior, but the objective was to essentially lower trade barriers and expand trade. Um, and in this administration, I think what we saw several months ago, now it's paused again happily, uh, is the kind of broad-based industrial policy that I think ultimately will harm the American economy, will harm American consumers ...

They Former US Vice President Mike Pence taking a critical stance on President Trump's tariffs. Writing in a Wall Street Journal op ed in the past few months that since the president announced his Liberation Day tariffs, the only thing America has been liberated from is trillions of dollars in investments, a place to say the 48th vice president of the United States, Mike Pence, joins us now for more. Mr.. Vice President, good morning. Good morning. Thanks for having me on.Thank you for being here. I want to ...